Re: why use coldfusion 7? (Result)

2005-05-24 Thread Calvin Ward
Congratulations! Looking forward to helping out with your migration questions :P There's a great manual that comes with 7 (maybe only in pdf) that talks about the migration process and considerations. - Calvin On 5/24/05 2:44 AM, "mike hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks in part to yo

Re: why use coldfusion 7? (Result)

2005-05-23 Thread mike hanson
Thanks in part to your responses I have agreement to skip cf6 and go straight to 7. :-) ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bann

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-19 Thread Calvin Ward
How about this question ? What is the compelling reason to migrate to 6.1 instead of 7? On 5/18/05 2:23 PM, "Damien McKenna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another way of looking at it... > > You go to buy a car. You're, e.g., looking at the Toyota Prius (Hi > Sean) and decide to get it. Lets

RE: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-18 Thread Damien McKenna
, 2005 11:53 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: why use coldfusion 7? > > Thanks to everyone for their contributions. I still haven't > found a 'must have MX7' reason but there are alot of good > arguements I can use. ~~~

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-18 Thread Calvin Ward
age- > From: mike hanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:53 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: why use coldfusion 7? > > Thanks to everyone for their contributions. I still haven't found a 'must > have MX7' r

RE: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-18 Thread Connie DeCinko
You mean paying $1299 twice is not a good enough reason? -Original Message- From: mike hanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: why use coldfusion 7? Thanks to everyone for their contributions. I still haven't found a '

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-18 Thread Adam Haskell
> I just checked and the licenses for 6.1 and 7 are both $1299 USD... and > Application.cfc, How could I forget Application.cfcthats a real big one. The XML stuff is big too but, our company just uses it as a buzz word nothing ever gets done in XML so its not a big deal here... Adam H ~~

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-18 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
Are you guys going Enterprise, or Standard? Because Ent includes Gateways and the instance manager in 7. Big big big difference. There's some enhancements to charting between the 6.1 and 7 products, too, if charting's important. There's the font manager in 7, to connect fonts to things like CF

RE: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-18 Thread James Holmes
So that's where my wife went. God I miss my secretary... -Original Message- From: mike hanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 18 May 2005 4:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: why use coldfusion 7? >If you don't buy CFMX7, your hair will all fall out, your wife will ru

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-18 Thread mike hanson
>If you don't buy CFMX7, your hair will all fall out, your wife will run away >with your secretary, your car's tires will all go flat, and your dog will >decide to use the floor of the Mercedes for an emesis dish. > >This message was not endorsed by Macromedia. > >J :-) I wondered what the smel

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-18 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
If you don't buy CFMX7, your hair will all fall out, your wife will run away with your secretary, your car's tires will all go flat, and your dog will decide to use the floor of the Mercedes for an emesis dish. This message was not endorsed by Macromedia. J On 5/18/05, mike hanson <[EMAIL PROT

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread mike hanson
Thanks to everyone for their contributions. I still haven't found a 'must have MX7' reason but there are alot of good arguements I can use. Mike ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking applicat

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread dave
look @ Jared go! whoo hoo dude you rock! ~Dave the disruptor~ From: "Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: why use coldfusion 7? Mike... I just checked and

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
Mike... I just checked and the licenses for 6.1 and 7 are both $1299 USD... and Application.cfc, query metadata, the exstensively enhanced list of built-in functions, the ability to override a system function by name (i.e. I can write my own getAuthUser() method and CFMX will let me), CFDOCUMEN

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> I'm leveraging the metadata to get the ordinal order of > the columns instead of the lovely alphabetical order of > columns, which MM's coldfusion throws at you. You can > make some really nice code generation tools with the > metadata as far as making DAOs and Beans ect. Previously > I used to q

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Adam Haskell
I'm leveraging the metadata to get the ordinal order of the columns instead of the lovely alphabetical order of columns, which MM's coldfusion throws at you. You can make some really nice code generation tools with the metadata as far as making DAOs and Beans ect. Previously I used to query sysobje

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Scott Stroz
Ther is a very simple equation you can use to show the benefits of CFMX 7 as compared to CFMX 6.1 CFMX 7 = more gooder -- Scott Stroz Boyzoid.com ___ Some days you are the dog, Some days you are the tree. ~

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> Most of the hilghts of features are flashsy nifty > impressive things > like Flash forms, or the new report builder, both are cool > yes but not > generally that cool. Somethings I would hlight are: > Java nulls > Query Metadata > Admin API We haven't used Query Metadata yet, but we've already

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Adam Haskell
Most of the hilghts of features are flashsy nifty impressive things like Flash forms, or the new report builder, both are cool yes but not generally that cool. Somethings I would hlight are: Java nulls Query Metadata Admin API Non of these get much talk but are usefull things that were added.

RE: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Steve Brownlee
PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:29 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: why use coldfusion 7? > > I have a meeting with my boss on Friday to try and persuade > him to go from cf5 to cf7. He wants to go for cf6 as it is a > 'stable' release. > This will mea

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Keith Gaughan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Connie DeCinko wrote: > I'd disagree arguing that it will cost you more in the long wrong to upgrade > and test/debug twice. This isn't like going from CF5 to CF6 where there was a complete rewrite: the core of CF7 is just plain old CF6.1 + patches.

RE: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Burns, John D
rsion that they just don't feel like rewriting. John Burns Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer -Original Message- From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 2:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: why use col

RE: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Matt Osbun
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/faq/#item-2-12 Matt Osbun Web Developer Health Systems, International -Original Message- From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 1:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: why use coldfusion 7? I

RE: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Connie DeCinko
I wonder, can you even buy version 6? Does anyone still sell it? -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: why use coldfusion 7? Apart form the issue of support - MM supports two versions back and

RE: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Connie DeCinko
even find a way to improve on your current code with a new feature. -Original Message- From: Keith Gaughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 7:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: why use coldfusion 7? The same argument can be made in favour of CF6.1: if you don't re

RE: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Kevin Aebig
ly, Kevin -Original Message- From: David Critchley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: why use coldfusion 7? CF7 also has a nice little utility in CF admin, where you can analyze your code for errors and deprecated tags/properties. We

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread David Critchley
CF7 also has a nice little utility in CF admin, where you can analyze your code for errors and deprecated tags/properties. We are in the process of upgrading from CF5 to CF7 ourselves. I used this utility to analyze our code prior to moving it to our CF7 server. It worked like a charm. Dave

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Calvin Ward
itely recommend skipping 6.1 and going straight to 7. - Calvin On 5/17/05 11:15 AM, "Jim Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:41 AM >> To: CF-Talk >

RE: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:41 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: why use coldfusion 7? > > One thing to remember about CF7 is that at it's core is CFMX6.1 + Updater > 1 > > Therefor

RE: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Burns, John D
boratories, Inc. | Web Developer -Original Message- From: Keith Gaughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: why use coldfusion 7? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andy Allan wrote: > One thing to remember about CF7 is

RE: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread James Holmes
Apart form the issue of support - MM supports two versions back and therefore buying CF 6 gets you a product with a shorter support lifetime. -Original Message- From: Keith Gaughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 17 May 2005 10:58 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: why use coldfusion 7

RE: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Hugo Ahlenius
An argument pro-7 that for your boss -- it should be better support by the community and possibly MM as well, at least it will be supported longer than 6.1 with updaters, technotes, hotfixes etc (don't know what the exact dates are) -- Hugo Ahlenius --

RE: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Hugo Ahlenius
WWW: http://www.grida.no - | -Original Message- | From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 16:41 | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: why use coldfusion 7? | | One thing to remember about CF7 is th

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Keith Gaughan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andy Allan wrote: > One thing to remember about CF7 is that at it's core is CFMX6.1 + Updater 1 > > Therefore if you're boss wants to go to 6.1 purely cause it's stable > then you have absolutely no reason not to go to 7. The same argument can be ma

RE: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Damien McKenna
> -Original Message- > From: Mike Hanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Does anyone have a list of features that explain why 7 is > better than 6 that I can use? http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/coldfusion/mx7/releas enotes.html -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EM

Re: why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Andy Allan
One thing to remember about CF7 is that at it's core is CFMX6.1 + Updater 1 Therefore if you're boss wants to go to 6.1 purely cause it's stable then you have absolutely no reason not to go to 7. Andy On 5/17/05, Mike Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a meeting with my boss on Friday to

why use coldfusion 7?

2005-05-17 Thread Mike Hanson
I have a meeting with my boss on Friday to try and persuade him to go from cf5 to cf7. He wants to go for cf6 as it is a 'stable' release. This will mean alot of extra work for the developers (who would obviously go for cf7). We have looked at cf7 over the past few weeks and found it to be very sta