[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-24 Thread Rae Buerckner
Lol... I remember that breakfast Barry! On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Barry Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > a fair point, Blair > > the other side of the equation of course is too much hand-holding that > it gets in the way, either by abstracting too much of the detail so > you don't kn

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-24 Thread Barry Beattie
a fair point, Blair the other side of the equation of course is too much hand-holding that it gets in the way, either by abstracting too much of the detail so you don't know what's happening under the covers - or - it just plain gets it wrong in edge-cases (special headers needed in CF webservice

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-24 Thread shib71
I see you point that they (tools and frameworks) fill many of the same needs. That is probably true of every language. But I disagree with the implication that a good tool is inherently better than a good framework. The choice is much more pragmatic than that: which option offers the best feature

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-24 Thread Scott Barnes
I'm sure that convo will yield a lot and provide little :) After spending some time look around for the past 5 years I've come to one sad conclusion and I'm sure it's not popular thinking.. Frameworks in coldfusion exist to compensate for lack of tooling, as if you have nothing to automate the plum

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-24 Thread Barry Beattie
Barnes' thoughts (or similar) are being echoed over on the CFC Dev list at the moment with people like Peter Bell, Sean Corfield, Brian Kotek and our very own Mark Mandel, amongst others. http://groups.google.com/group/cfcdev/browse_thread/thread/2e90c0dbfecf5a59 " Doubts about Best Practices" w

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-24 Thread Scott Barnes
Developers typically are pattern experts, they identify a problem and seek a solution that conforms to a pattern that suites them. The more patterns you absorb, dissect and recycle the more you continue to innovate and as such the bar or baseline form where you once were has moved. Ask any coldfus

[cfaussie] Re: Multiply Queries

2008-06-24 Thread Scott Thornton
HI, A stored procedure can return multiple result sets and can be referenced with . >>> "KNOTT, Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 25/06/2008 8:46 am >>> Can a cfstoredproc return multiply queries. I have a stored proc that returns 2 or 3 queries. When I use cfstoredproc it only retur

[cfaussie] RE: Multiply Queries

2008-06-24 Thread KNOTT, Brian
Its OK I worked it out Brian Knott ext 61984 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KNOTT, Brian Sent: Wednesday, 25 June 2008 8:47 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject

[cfaussie] Multiply Queries

2008-06-24 Thread KNOTT, Brian
Can a cfstoredproc return multiply queries. I have a stored proc that returns 2 or 3 queries. When I use cfstoredproc it only returns the first query. Is there any way to return all queries or do I have to break the stored procedure in to separate stored procs that only return 1 query each.