RE: [cgiapp] posts blackholed?

2007-10-19 Thread Jesse Erlbaum
I sent a number of posts to the list last night. Only one went through. This morning, I tried the missing ones again. Nothing went through. What's up? The messages are coming through now. Probably a list server configuration issue. -Jesse-   Jesse Erlbaum The Erlbaum Group, LLC 817

[cgiapp] what i'd like to be doing: new authn/authz thoughts

2007-10-19 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
I want to do Stuff with OpenID. The way I see it, your OpenID right now can only replace your password, not your username, in many applications. That's because you want to be able to say: http://some.web.app/user/USERNAME/whatever Putting your OpenID, which is a URL, where USERNAME appears

[cgiapp] Class::MOP? Really?

2007-10-19 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
I see that the devel version of CGI::Application uses Class::MOP. Neat. Except... On my 5.8.8 install, loading CGI::Application's stable release adds about 300k to the resident size of my perl process. Loading metaclass.pm (of Class-MOP) adds another 2000k. In other words, moving from

Re: [cgiapp] Re: what i'd like to be doing: new authn/authz thoughts

2007-10-19 Thread Michael Peters
A. Pagaltzis wrote: Because there’s not a single user in the system to which you gain access using $N different credentials. There are $N different users, and so each of them should have their own URI. It’s simply good REST design: don’t conflate multiple resources behind a single URI. It

[cgiapp] Re: what i'd like to be doing: new authn/authz thoughts

2007-10-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Michael Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-20 01:30]: Ricardo SIGNES wrote: I want to do Stuff with OpenID. The way I see it, your OpenID right now can only replace your password, not your username, in many applications. That's because you want to be able to say:

Re: [cgiapp] what i'd like to be doing: new authn/authz thoughts

2007-10-19 Thread Michael Peters
Ricardo SIGNES wrote: I want to do Stuff with OpenID. The way I see it, your OpenID right now can only replace your password, not your username, in many applications. That's because you want to be able to say: http://some.web.app/user/USERNAME/whatever Putting your OpenID, which is a

[cgiapp] Re: what i'd like to be doing: new authn/authz thoughts

2007-10-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Ricardo SIGNES [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-19 19:45]: Any other thoughts? The default case is you use your OpenID to log into your main account. So while you would need to create an account that an OpenID gets associated with, you could log in with your OpenID alone to access your main account.

Re: [cgiapp] strategies for decoupling HTML::Template

2007-10-19 Thread Timothy Appnel
On 10/19/07, Ricardo SIGNES [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a plan to convert HTML::Template from a prereq into a plugin? Are you volunteering? ;) Maybe the cons outweight the pros. I just really would like to eliminate that prereq. +1 tim/ # CGI::Application community mailing

Re: [cgiapp] Class::MOP? Really?

2007-10-19 Thread Ron Savage
Michael Peters wrote: Hi Michael This isn't a hey, Class::MOP is the new hotness! change, is it? I think this was a hey, Class::MOP is really cool. I bet it would make CGI::App much simpler...oh wait. Look how slow everything got!. And now we also have Look how big everything got!. So,

RE: [cgiapp] strategies for decoupling HTML::Template

2007-10-19 Thread Jesse Erlbaum
I am not a big fan of HTML::Template. It just doesn't float my boat. It bugs me a little bit that it's a prereq of CGI::Application, especially when it isn't, then, really needed. I am a big fan of HTML::Template, which is why I put in there in the first place. In spite of the fact that

[cgiapp] Re: Class::MOP? Really?

2007-10-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Ron Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-20 03:40]: my vote would be either for Object::InsideOut or Class::Std, Don’t miss Class::InsideOut. It’s better than either of the modules you mention for inside-out style. Unlike Class::Std it actually works reliably, and unlike Object::InsideOut it

[cgiapp] Re: strategies for decoupling HTML::Template

2007-10-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Jesse Erlbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-20 04:50]: I am a big fan of HTML::Template, which is why I put in there in the first place. In spite of the fact that I have a strong preference, I made it easy (nay, trivial) to swap in your own templating system. Your request has been heard, and

[cgiapp] Re: what i'd like to be doing: new authn/authz thoughts

2007-10-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Ricardo SIGNES [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-20 01:25]: So you'll always want something like /wishlist/ID/{view,edit}. When is primary identity a useful concept, now? Yes, precisely. How does that invalidate the idea of a main identity? You log in with http://rjbs.myopenid.net/ and get sent to

Re: [cgiapp] Re: what i'd like to be doing: new authn/authz thoughts

2007-10-19 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
* A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-19T19:12:10] * Ricardo SIGNES [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-19 19:45]: Any other thoughts? The default case is you use your OpenID to log into your main account. So while you would need to create an account that an OpenID gets associated with, you

Re: [cgiapp] what i'd like to be doing: new authn/authz thoughts

2007-10-19 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
* Michael Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-19T19:28:20] I've been wondering if the correct approach for handling this is to log in using only your OpenID, and then let you choose a profile from among those available. profile would replace the traditional user concept. Most users would

[cgiapp] strategies for decoupling HTML::Template

2007-10-19 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
I am not a big fan of HTML::Template. It just doesn't float my boat. It bugs me a little bit that it's a prereq of CGI::Application, especially when it isn't, then, really needed. Is there a plan to convert HTML::Template from a prereq into a plugin? Up-sides: no non-core prereqs as of 5.8,

[cgiapp] Re: strategies for decoupling HTML::Template

2007-10-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Ricardo SIGNES [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-20 00:10]: Is there a plan to convert HTML::Template from a prereq into a plugin? Put me down as a vote in favour. Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis // http://plasmasturm.org/ # CGI::Application community mailing list ##

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2007-10-19 Thread eBay Customer Support
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[cgiapp] posts blackholed?

2007-10-19 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
I sent a number of posts to the list last night. Only one went through. This morning, I tried the missing ones again. Nothing went through. What's up? -- rjbs - Web Archive:

[cgiapp] New mailing list server

2007-10-19 Thread Jesse Erlbaum
Hi All - As David indicated, we have switch the CGI::Application mailing list over to Mailman. If anyone has any difficulty with the new server, please email me directly. Warmest regards, -Jesse- Jesse Erlbaum The Erlbaum Group, LLC 817 Broadway, 10th floor New York, NY

[cgiapp] what i'd like to be doing: wish list software

2007-10-19 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
Ages ago, I wrote a horrible wishlist tracker for my family. When my grandmother was still the matriarch of the family, she was in charge of making sure that everyone produced a wishlist. These were then circulated through the mail, and everyone checked things off. This was subsequently

[cgiapp] Welcome to the new server!

2007-10-19 Thread David Kaufman
If you can read this, the mailing list migration was a success. Welcome to Mailman on Qmail on RedHat ES4. (if not, then not). -dave ___ cgiapp mailing list cgiapp@lists.erlbaum.net http://www.erlbaum.net/mailman/listinfo/cgiapp

[cgiapp] more testings

2007-10-19 Thread David Kaufman
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