Re: [Chicken-users] Arch User Repository packages

2015-01-09 Thread Matt Gushee
Actually, upon further reflection, I think my previous post was a bit confused. The reasons I gave were surely valid reasons for *something*, but maybe not for the points I was making ;-) What I really want to say is that: * I believe that in some hypothetical future where people are developing en

Re: [Chicken-users] Arch User Repository packages

2015-01-09 Thread John Cowan
Matt Gushee scripsit: > Also, in my experience with various Linux tribes, there is a general > expectation that binary packages should depend only on other binary > packages. Indeed, there is a potential security issue in that (at > least in principle) official binary packages are tested and > sec

Re: [Chicken-users] Arch User Repository packages

2015-01-09 Thread Matt Gushee
Hi, Dan + all-- On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Daniel Leslie wrote: > I've never liked the duplication within the system package manager. I agree that duplication is undesirable. However ... > Ensuring > Eggs are available and installed could be done as part of the tools' install > script. Th

Re: [Chicken-users] Arch User Repository packages

2015-01-09 Thread Daniel Leslie
I've never liked the duplication within the system package manager. Ensuring Eggs are available and installed could be done as part of the tools' install script. -Dan On 9 Jan 2015 14:40, "Alexej Magura" wrote: > I'd forgotten about tools written in Chicken Scheme; it's a very valid > point. >

Re: [Chicken-users] Arch User Repository packages

2015-01-09 Thread Alexej Magura
I'd forgotten about tools written in Chicken Scheme; it's a very valid point. On 01/09/2015 03:39 PM, Aaron Paden wrote: I don't think that's quite right. Python also offers similar tools, but every Linux distro I've seen also supplies Python packages in their repositories. While pip is great f

Re: [Chicken-users] Arch User Repository packages

2015-01-09 Thread Aaron Paden
I don't think that's quite right. Python also offers similar tools, but every Linux distro I've seen also supplies Python packages in their repositories. While pip is great for development, when it comes to distribution, end-users on Linux still expect to be able to use their package manager to ins

Re: [Chicken-users] Arch User Repository packages

2015-01-09 Thread Mario Domenech Goulart
Hi Aaron, On Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:51:09 -0600 Aaron Paden wrote: > 1) Does chicken have a way to check if there are new versions of > libraries? Most of these libraries don't actually have a website or > up-to-date version information, and the only way I've seen so far to > tell the latest versio

Re: [Chicken-users] Arch User Repository packages

2015-01-09 Thread Alexej Magura
Yeah, offering eggs via any other method, but chicken-install, is an overly complicated and unnecessary solution to a non-existent problem, and the solution tends to breed more problems of its own. Such as: /"//how do I check if there's a more recent release for egg XYZ"/ I'd send a request t

Re: [Chicken-users] Arch User Repository packages

2015-01-09 Thread cowan
> 1) Does chicken have a way to check if there are new versions of > libraries? Most of these libraries don't actually have a website or > up-to-date version information, and the only way I've seen so far to > tell the latest version is to download it with chicken-install and check > the version in

Re: [Chicken-users] Arch User Repository packages

2015-01-09 Thread Alexej Magura
Most of them probably don't need to be packaged on the AUR. I've always tried to stay away from AUR sponsored packages that were available through a languages built-in package manager, since the AUR packages may or may not be up to speed with the latest release available via `chicken-install'

[Chicken-users] Arch User Repository packages

2015-01-09 Thread Aaron Paden
Most of the chicken-egg packages on aur.archlinux.org have been orphaned. Most of these will not build because a recent pacman update made implementing package() mandatory. I've taken maintainership of a few packages, but I'm only trying Chicken out. If any of you are Arch users, you may want to c