Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-06-05 Thread Zbigniew
Not that this solves your problem, but you can do a one-time, one-way eggdoc-wiki transformation using the eggdoc-svnwiki egg. (http://chicken.wiki.br/eggdoc-svnwiki, generated using itself :) But there is no way to retain the semantic information during the conversion. If some support were

Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-06-04 Thread chicken
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:43:28AM +, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: Can you provide a simplistic example of how an egg would be documented in the wiki using these tags and what the actual html produced would be? Thanks! Is it possible to have syntax along the lines of the following

Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-06-01 Thread Joerg F. Wittenberger
Adhi Hargo wrote: --- Alejandro Forero Cuervo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's best to keep the authoritative version of the manual in wiki format instead of Texinfo. I think this makes it easier for most to contribute to it. I also think a Texinfo version should be generated from it.

(could be slightly OT) Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-06-01 Thread Sunnan
Joerg F. Wittenberger wrote: c) Therefore I'd always recomment to *store* some strictly checked format, while serializing to the fashion-of-the-day, human readably syntax in the very moment of delivery for edit/display. I agree. The hard part there is the conversion from edit-mode to strict.

Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-05-31 Thread Ivan Raikov
Hello, Alejandro, I figured you would respond to this sooner or later :) Thanks for the detailed section on generating Texinfo from wiki format. I did in fact discover Graham's code, and I wrote some code to fill in the missing functionality, however I haven't tested it yet, because I

Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-05-31 Thread Adhi Hargo
--- Alejandro Forero Cuervo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's best to keep the authoritative version of the manual in wiki format instead of Texinfo. I think this makes it easier for most to contribute to it. I also think a Texinfo version should be generated from it. I've just finished an

Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-05-31 Thread Alejandro Forero Cuervo
wiki tags tend to be applied in a very non-uniform (and in minor cases, sloppy) manner while Texinfo forces writer to apply the right tag. Can you provide some examples of this? in the long run, wiki-texi conversion loses a lot more semantic information than the other way around, so much so

Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-05-31 Thread Alejandro Forero Cuervo
I did in fact discover Graham's code, and I wrote some code to fill in the missing functionality [...]. Excellent! :-) How would you suggest that I go about creating a test harness for wiki-texi without having to create my own svnwiki site? The following is an example of a simplistic

Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-05-30 Thread Alejandro Forero Cuervo
I wish I had seen the thread about the Chicken manual before. Anyway, here are my thoughts. I'll use a bit of wiki format for this message, heh. I'll try to keep it short. == Improving the contents of the manual: I agree with the people that think the manual should be improved to make it more

Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-05-22 Thread Ivan Raikov
Hello, Graham, I saw the wiki-texinfo code in the stream-wiki repository, and I have written some initial code to attempt to generate Texinfo using the approach that svnwiki takes to generate LaTeX code. Thanks for contributing the texi converter. -Ivan Graham Fawcett [EMAIL

Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-05-21 Thread Graham Fawcett
On 5/19/07, Ivan Raikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mario, Do you care to elaborate why there is no easy way to do that? I will be very happy to contribute time and effort to building a wiki-texinfo converter. Ivan, I did some work on a wiki-texinfo converter (continuing Alejandro's

Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-05-19 Thread Ivan Raikov
Hi Mario, Do you care to elaborate why there is no easy way to do that? I will be very happy to contribute time and effort to building a wiki-texinfo converter. The PDF does help a little bit, but even the best PDF reader does not even come close to the abilities of the Emacs Texinfo reader.

Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-05-19 Thread Mario Domenech Goulart
Hi Ivan, On Sat, 19 May 2007 17:11:46 +0900 Ivan Raikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you care to elaborate why there is no easy way to do that? Because, as far as I know, we don't have a wiki-texinfo converter. I've quickly searched and found an HTML-texi converter:

Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-05-19 Thread Adhi Hargo
Hi all, Sorry if I don't get the gist of this conversation (I'm new, here, anyway), but isn't converting Chicken's manual to Texinfo format a bit waste of time? Because the way I see it, chicken.pdf isn't really counts as a *reference* manual: you know, the kind of document one would print and

Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-05-19 Thread Mario Domenech Goulart
Hi Adhi, On Sat, 19 May 2007 18:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Adhi Hargo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if I don't get the gist of this conversation (I'm new, here, anyway), but isn't converting Chicken's manual to Texinfo format a bit waste of time? Because the way I see it, chicken.pdf isn't really

Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-05-19 Thread Ivan Raikov
Hi Adhi, I don't really want to convert the manual to Texinfo format. The current wiki arrangement is fine with me -- but I want to be able to automatically generate Texinfo files from the wiki. That way, the same content will be available in more formats -- and I think this is consistent

[Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-05-18 Thread Ivan Raikov
Hi all, Can anyone tell me what it would take to restore ability for building Chicken's manual in Texinfo format? The current html parody of a manual is impossible to use. -Ivan ___ Chicken-users mailing list Chicken-users@nongnu.org

Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-05-18 Thread Mario Domenech Goulart
Hi Ivan, On Fri, 18 May 2007 15:47:32 +0900 Ivan Raikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me what it would take to restore ability for building Chicken's manual in Texinfo format? I'm afraid there's not an easy way to do that. The current html parody of a manual is impossible to

Re: [Chicken-users] Chicken manual in Texinfo format

2007-05-18 Thread Brandon Van Every
On 5/18/07, Ivan Raikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The current html parody of a manual is impossible to use. You're exaggerating. Please be specific about what's impacting your workflow. Please also be objective about how much time you're losing, rather than dwelling on matters of taste.