GPLed Java (Was: Re: [Chicken-users] New user; egg problems)

2006-12-08 Thread Peter Busser
Hi! We don't use Sun's implementation of Java, because it's not ideologically pure ;-) Plus everyone knows that good programming languages have a specification that doesn't shift like quicksand... Well, that is partially not true anymore. Sun already released two important components of

Re: [Chicken-users] New user; egg problems

2006-12-07 Thread Kon Lovett
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Richard, On Dec 7, 2006, at 9:35 AM, Richard Lewis wrote: Hello CHICKEN users, I'm new both to chicken scheme and, in fact, to scheme itself. I was attracted to chicken as soon as I saw that it had a very simple module management system.

Re: [Chicken-users] New user; egg problems

2006-12-07 Thread Ivan Raikov
I think even the most simple kind of Chicken/egg versioning would go a long way. For example, I can build easyffi and use it in Chicken 2.3 if I simply remove the -G option. So if chicken-setup supported different build commands for different versions of Chicken, this would make packaging

Re: [Chicken-users] New user; egg problems

2006-12-07 Thread Mario Domenech Goulart
Hello Ivan, On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:04:57 -0500 Ivan Raikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think even the most simple kind of Chicken/egg versioning would go a long way. For example, I can build easyffi and use it in Chicken 2.3 if I simply remove the -G option. So if chicken-setup supported

Re: [Chicken-users] New user; egg problems

2006-12-07 Thread Richard Lewis
Thanks for your replies regarding this. I've just managed to install easyffi by removing the -G option from easyffi.setup. But it looks like I'll have to have a go at self-compilation. Being a Debian user I'm extremely unused to this sort of thing. Wish me luck ;-) On Thursday 07 December

Re: [Chicken-users] New user; egg problems

2006-12-07 Thread Ivan Raikov
Well, I am not the maintainer for the Debian Chicken package, so I don't know. But unless the more recent versions of Chicken depend on libraries or library versions that are not present in Debian, it's probably not that difficult. Actually, the real problem here would be that the Debian

Re: Re: [Chicken-users] New user; egg problems

2006-12-07 Thread Zbigniew
It seems to me that if Debian provides a Chicken 2.3 package for stability reasons, then Debian should also provide a 2.3 eggs package and keep it up to date. Using chicken-setup is inherently unstable from the perspective of Debian stable, since the eggs are constantly updated and haven't gone

Re: [Chicken-users] New user; egg problems

2006-12-07 Thread Kon Lovett
On Dec 7, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Zbigniew wrote: It seems to me that if Debian provides a Chicken 2.3 package for stability reasons, then Debian should also provide a 2.3 eggs package and keep it up to date. Using chicken-setup is inherently unstable from the perspective of Debian stable, since

Re: [Chicken-users] New user; egg problems

2006-12-07 Thread Ivan Raikov
You make a good point; actually, I would say that Debian needs to have a package for each individual egg, so that the developer who wishes to release Debian packages of their Chicken code can have precise control over dependencies. But then this means that the egg repository must match egg

Re: [Chicken-users] New user; egg problems

2006-12-07 Thread Ivan Raikov
We don't use Sun's implementation of Java, because it's not ideologically pure ;-) Plus everyone knows that good programming languages have a specification that doesn't shift like quicksand... Kon Lovett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you. I was just going to mention that. What do

Re: [Chicken-users] New user; egg problems

2006-12-07 Thread John Cowan
Ivan Raikov scripsit: We don't use Sun's implementation of Java, because it's not ideologically pure ;-) Plus everyone knows that good programming languages have a specification that doesn't shift like quicksand... Well, Algol (60 and 68) should meet your needs, then, as should PL/I.