You are absolutely right Palmbeach.......The "Softcore" Democrats refuse to come to terms with the "TRUTH"..........Ignore it long enough, it will go away....We're not going to take back "Our" country playing their game, by their made up rules....I hope I'm dead wrong, but I sure won't hold my breath on '06.....The Dim's (dimwit democrats) & the Rip's (ripoff republicans) are feeding US all a line of B/S and most are swallowing it hook, line & sinker just like the sucker fish on the bottom of the lake.....We have to form a "People's Party", yes a viable third party that can take & make a formable stand against these tyrants of both parties that serve the banks & corporations and not the people....We must run our Country from the core principals of Our Constitution & Bill of Rights.. We must refocus "Our" principals back to the people with jobs, health care for all, guaranteed Civil Liberties for all, start rebuilding our infrastructure to benefit the country as a whole and just not for the corporations & make our elections honest & transparent once again to lend creditability to this system............Today's standard of acceptable LYING must no longer be tolerated at all levels of society, government & business........Windfall profits must cease off the backs of the people....Huge plant closings with terminations of tens of thousands while CEO's collect huge bounces' & receive Golden Parachutes can no longer be legitimized as rewards for a job well done...
We can no longer sit idly by and watch others be thrown to the wolves and close our eyes and tell ourselves, "Better he, than I".....For eventually it will be all of US ........Now is the time to unite under one banner for the Justice for the people & by the people ......We must "All" be willing to make the sacrifice to "Work Hard" for this concept and make it happen or we will all become slaves of this government....
"I cannot teach anybody anything, I can only make them think."  Socrates.
"The warrior's sword of wisdom cuts through delusion." Pema Chodron
palmbeach411 writes:
Election fraud...... If Howard Dean choses to ignore the fact  that election fraud cost us the last election then there is no way the democrats will win back the  house of  representatives. It criminal that the  people at the top of this party chose to ignore  the fact that electronic theft of the election has taken place in the past and to retain power the republicans will do it again.

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> http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/636288161?ltl=1131891818
> 20 Amazing Facts About Voting in the USA
>
> http://nightweed.com/usavotefacts.html
> http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/636288161?ltl=1131891818
>
> Did you know....
>
> 1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only
> two companies: Diebold and ES&S.
>
> http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold
>
>
> 2. There is no federal agency with regulatory
> authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine
> industry.
>
> http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0916-04.htm
>
> http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html
>
>
> 3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of
> ES&S are brothers.
>
> http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/private_company.html
>
> http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html
>
>
> 4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush
> campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he
> was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral
> votes to the president next year."
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml
>
> http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1647886
>
>
> 5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman
> of ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by
> ES&S machines.
>
> http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2004/03/03_200.html
>
>
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/031004Fitrakis/031004fitrakis.ht
> ml
>
>
> 6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected
> with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about
> his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.
>
> http://www.blackboxvoting.com/modules.php?
> name=News&file=article&sid=26
>
> http://www.hillnews.com/news/012903/hagel.aspx
>
> http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/000896.php
>
>
> 7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George
> W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates.
>
> http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.htm
>
> http://theindependent.com/stories/052700/new_hagel27.html
>
>
> 8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in
> the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes.
>
> http://www.essvote.com/HTML/about/about.html
>
> http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html
>
>
> 9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no
> paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no
> way to verify that the data coming out of the machine
> is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.
>
> http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
>
> http://www.itworld.com/Tech/2987/041020evotestates/pfindex.html
>
>
> 10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and
> ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and
> can generate a paper trail.
>
> http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
>
> http://www.diebold.com/solutions/default.htm
>
>
> 11. Diebold is based in Ohio.
>
> http://www.diebold.com/aboutus/ataglance/default.htm
>
>
> 12. Diebold employed 5 convicted felons as
> consultants and developers to help write the central
> compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes
> in 30 states.
>
> http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,61640,00.html
>
> http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/301469.shtml
>
>
> 13. Jeff Dean was Senior Vice-President of Global
> Election Systems when it was bought by Diebold. Even
> though he had been convicted of 23 counts of felony
> theft in the first degree, Jeff Dean was retained as a
> consultant by Diebold and was largely responsible for
> programming the optical scanning software now used in
> most of the United States.
>
> http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0312/S00191.htm
> http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how
>
> http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf
>
>
> 14. Diebold consultant Jeff Dean was convicted of
> planting back doors in his software and using a "high
> degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a
> period of 2 years.
>
> http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how
>
> http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf
>
>
> 15. None of the international election observers were
> allowed in the polls in Ohio.
>
> http://www.globalexchange.org/update/press/2638.html
>
> http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/10/26/loc_elexoh.html
>
>
> 16. California banned the use of Diebold machines
> because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's
> claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a
> chimpanzee was able to do it! (See the movie here:
> http://blackboxvoting.org/baxter/baxterVPR.mov.)
>
> http://wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,63298,00.html
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4874190
>
>
> 17. 30% of all U.S. votes are carried out on
> unverifiable touch screen voting machines with no
> paper trail.
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml
>
>
> 18. All -- not some -- but all the voting machine
> errors detected and reported in Florida went in favor
> of Bush or Republican candidates.
>
> http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,65757,00.html
>
>
http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesB
> ushIsOut.htm
>
> http://www.rise4news.net/extravotes.html
>
> http://www.ilcaonline.org/modules.php?
> op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=950
>
> http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00227.htm
>
>
> 19. The governor of the state of Florida, Jeb Bush,
> is the President's brother.
>
> http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/local/7628725.htm
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10544-2004Oct29.html
>
>
> 20. Serious voting anomalies in Florida -- again
> always favoring Bush -- have been mathematically
> demonstrated and experts are recommending further
> investigation.
>
>
http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesB
> ushIsOut.htm
>
>
http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/policy/story
> /0,10801,97614,00.html
>
> http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/tens_of_thousands.html
>
> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm
>
> http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/110904.html
>
> http://uscountvotes.org/
>
>
> NOTE: Please copy the above list and distribute
> freely!
>
> LET THE FACTS BE KNOWN! Thank you!
>
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> alternative? It exists!
>
> Check out the Swiss Voting System
 
 
 


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