Re: [Cin] New monthly pkgs and tars available on the website

2020-07-01 Thread Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux
I apologize for answering Phyllis's question without being a veteran user, but to Phyllis's question about GG timing, the tracks, both before and now, can be moved and sorted as a user wishes. I think there are more important things, like improving the subject of inserting clips in a track with the

Re: [Cin] New monthly pkgs and tars available on the website

2020-07-01 Thread Phyllis Smith
Would it be worth GG's time to add "roll up" and "roll down" choices to mimic the original behavior? On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 2:42 PM Sam wrote: > I watched the Igor's video. I don't like working with locked tracks, so I > thought my suggestion would be a nice addition. On second thought, it makes

[Cin] Thanks and suggestions.

2020-07-01 Thread Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux
First of all I want to thank you for improving the Rotate Effect. Cinelerra has gone from having an effect that was a bit stressful to use it to having a wonderful rotation effect. So thank you very much to this collaborator for his time. I know the suggestions are not new and I apologize for bein

Re: [Cin] New monthly pkgs and tars available on the website

2020-07-01 Thread Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux
I think my opinion is irrelevant regarding the order of the tracks. Moving a track is something I rarely do. As for the Master Track, I have looked at the manual quickly and I do not quite understand what it does. But I'll look at it longer. There are other things that I want to comment on, but I t

Re: [Cin] New monthly pkgs and tars available on the website

2020-07-01 Thread Sam
I watched the Igor's video. I don't like working with locked tracks, so I thought my suggestion would be a nice addition. On second thought, it makes sense the way you described it. I agree with Igor and Pierre's opinion that previous behaviour is more useful. Here are two videos that show the

Re: [Cin] New monthly pkgs and tars available on the website

2020-07-01 Thread Phyllis Smith
Igor, (I was hoping the problem had to do with disarmed tracks.) I can not convince GG that it should not be changed back. Here is GG's logic looking at your 1st 3 lines in YouTube moving tracks example: DisarmedCreditsTrack 1 DisarmedIntro Track 2 Armed VFX_Text

Re: [Cin] New monthly pkgs and tars available on the website

2020-07-01 Thread Pierre autourduglobe
Phyllis, I understand what Igor describes; "move up" or "move down" has always meant, taking one (or more) track(s) and moving it (them) up (or down) above (or below) the tracks on the upper (or lower) levels. It's a bit like taking the elevator to move up or down a floor. Even if the selected

Re: [Cin] New monthly pkgs and tars available on the website

2020-07-01 Thread Phyllis Smith
Igor, I am using your youtube demo to see the difference. GG wants a very small session file to easily demo what you think is wrong. To me it seems like when you reach the top track, it makes sense to move it "up" to the bottom -- exchanging or flipping 2 tracks is not what "move up" means. On

Re: [Cin] New monthly pkgs and tars available on the website

2020-07-01 Thread Igor BEGHETTO
It doesn't matter in which Gang mode you are. For me, it doesn't depends by group of audio tracks. MoveUp and MoveDown work (I should say, worked in previous release) with Armed tracks. No new shortcuts are needed because the movement of the tracks is based on the armed tracks. So you can move w

Re: [Cin] New monthly pkgs and tars available on the website

2020-07-01 Thread Phyllis Smith
Well for some reason we have been unable to get it to fail, even with Igor's suggestion of disarmed tracks. I will study his demo video and try that next. This is very perplexing of why neither gg or I can see a problem -- even when loading old project files. On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:22 AM Sam

Re: [Cin] New monthly pkgs and tars available on the website

2020-07-01 Thread Sam
I like the new feature, but in a modified way. It would be very good if both possibilities still existed. So that I can move a track individually, like Igor and Pierre said, but also a video track with the corresponding audio tracks, but not like in a wheel. It would have the advantage that use

Re: [Cin] New monthly pkgs and tars available on the website

2020-07-01 Thread Pierre autourduglobe
Yes there is a problem; it is impossible to move a sound track individually. It always moves as a group of sound tracks even in "Gang None" mode. Pierre Le 20-07-01 à 03 h 02, Igor BEGHETTO a écrit : 2. *IMPORTANT - Changed Behavior*:     A minor change to “move up” and “move down” tracks wa

Re: [Cin] New monthly pkgs and tars available on the website

2020-07-01 Thread Phyllis Smith
IgorBeg There is "supposed" to be only 1 change which was to NOT exchange the first and last track when executing "move up" or "move down". I made a note in BT #469 and am trying to understand what the underlying issue is. More later. On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 1:02 AM Igor BEGHETTO wrote: > 2. *I

Re: [Cin] Rendering multi-threads

2020-07-01 Thread Andrea paz
For completeness I add the result of further tests: with mitigations=off/auto ==> same results with command line System ffmpeg: 1100- 1200% 260 fps with ffmpeg embedded into CinGG: 400 - 800% 102 fps -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin

Re: [Cin] New monthly pkgs and tars available on the website

2020-07-01 Thread Igor BEGHETTO
2. *IMPORTANT - Changed Behavior*: A minor change to “move up” and “move down” tracks was implemented to correct what was an exchange on the top track or bottom track instead of a move. What??? I didn't understand. Are You saying that the new behaviour to rearrange the tracks by Menu - Tr