Re: {Spam?} [CinCVS] another/ new cin-cvs compile error

2007-06-11 Thread Alexis Ballier
> What you say does not match what is going on in this bug: > > http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390 > > I found that bug applied for versions of ffmpeg back at least to > August 2006. That only applies to ffmpeg versions compiled with --enable-swscaler. I had sent a patch for this als

Re: [CinCVS] DVD render: output quality not so good

2007-06-11 Thread Yannick Patois
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I thanks everybody for his answer, and especially you for the time you took to explain me this MPEG stuff. I followed your recommandations and choosed a more static part of the movie, and did the same operation. Then, the image qualitity was good

Re: {Spam?} [CinCVS] another/ new cin-cvs compile error

2007-06-11 Thread Graham Evans
Well, that's only very recent ffmpeg versions that broke cinelerra : they removed the "extern "C" " stuff if the .h when included from c++. And cinelerra does use ffmpeg from c++... trivial patch enclosed. Regards, Alexis. (Ps: I will fix that in gentoo shortly, hopefuly) What you say

Re: [CinCVS] cinelerra on g5 (powerpc64)

2007-06-11 Thread John Haiducek
On 6/10/07, *rafael2k* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: are you using a linux distribution for 64 bits or 32 bits? 32 bits powerpc cinelerra is know to work (w/ or without altivec). How would I find out? I have a 64 bit processor and the system couldn't boot a 32 bi

[CinCVS] ctr+mouse-wheel moves trackcanvas horizontally

2007-06-11 Thread Vit Stradal
Hello, this small patch causes ctr+mouse-wheel moves trackcanvas horizontally. I found it very useful and user-friendly :-) vitas @;; === --- trunk/hvirtual/cinelerra/trackcanvas.C (revision 1009) +++ trunk/hvirtual/cinelerra

Re: [CinCVS] Re: A better MPEG-2 encoding than HDV

2007-06-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Terje, I tested the Quicktime for Linux format fairly extensively. The below spreadsheet compares the compatibility of different audio/video codecs in the Quicktime for Linux container format: http://content.serveftp.net/video/qtcompatibility.ods.html In that doc, I show compatibility for a pro

[CinCVS] ctr+mouse-wheel moves trackcanvas horizontally

2007-06-11 Thread Vit Stradal
Hello, this small patch causes ctr+mouse-wheel moves trackcanvas horizontally. I found it very useful and user-friendly :-) vitas @;; === --- trunk/hvirtual/cinelerra/trackcanvas.C (revision 1009) +++ trunk/hvirtual/cinelerra

Re: [CinCVS] Re: A better MPEG-2 encoding than HDV

2007-06-11 Thread Aaron Newcomb
So, what does this mean really? If Cinelerra decodes and re-encodes what do you lose in the process? And what about 4:4:4 as was mentioned earlier? On 6/11/07, Johannes Sixt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 11 June 2007 17:39, Terje J. Hanssen wrote: > No response on this topic so far. There

Re: [CinCVS] Re: A better MPEG-2 encoding than HDV

2007-06-11 Thread Johannes Sixt
On Monday 11 June 2007 17:39, Terje J. Hanssen wrote: > No response on this topic so far. Therefore I try again with two > follow-up questions: > > 1) Is Cinelerra capable to preserve mpeg2 with 4:2:2 color space > throughout the editing process? No. Cinelerra decodes and re-encodes. But it has YU

Re: [CinCVS] reference monitor

2007-06-11 Thread Bodmer Stephan
Graham Evans wrote: If this is the case it may be possible to get a second video card working for the compositor view. Yes, I could confirm that. I have a nvidia card with twin-view enabled (6800GT) on two monitor and I have an ATI card (Radeon) on another monitor. The compositor was on my ATI c

Re: [CinCVS] DVD render: output quality not so good

2007-06-11 Thread Johannes Sixt
On Sunday 10 June 2007 15:38, Yannick Patois wrote: > To render, I did exactly what's in the doc: > created a small script containg: > #!/bin/bash > mpeg2enc -v 0 -K tmpgenc -r 16 -4 1 -2 1 -D 10 -E 10 -g 15 -G 15 -q 6 -b > 8600 -f 8 -o $1 If what the docs suggest, doesn't work, then understand wh

Re: [CinCVS] DVD render: output quality not so good

2007-06-11 Thread mskala
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Yannick Patois wrote: > Most of the texture is lost in all rendered images... > > Thanks for any suggestion, You seem to be forcing a large GOP size with -g 15 -G 15. That means it's only allowed to emit an I-frame (complete description of a frame) twice per second, and every

Re: [CinCVS] DVD render: output quality not so good

2007-06-11 Thread Yannick Patois
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Thanks for your help. Joe Friedrichsen a écrit : > On 6/10/07, Yannick Patois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> To render, I did exactly what's in the doc: >> created a small script containg: >> #!/bin/bash >> mpeg2enc -v 0 -K tmpgenc -r 16 -4 1 -2 1

Re: {Spam?} [CinCVS] another/ new cin-cvs compile error

2007-06-11 Thread Alexis Ballier
> > what should the upper output tell me? > are you using external ffmpeg? fmpeg versions since about August > 2006 are incompatible with the current cinelerra. Well, that's only very recent ffmpeg versions that broke cinelerra : they removed the "extern "C" " stuff if the .h when included from

Re: Vs: Re: Vs: [CinCVS] reference monitor

2007-06-11 Thread flavio
still, there probably remains the problem of dropped frames that's what I mean, it works without dropping frames. I use it to backup in minidv the final editings =) the image is just as it is in cinelerra's compositor, otherwise it would be useless. and i have a p4 also, 3.2. i know kino has di

Re: [CinCVS] Re: A better MPEG-2 encoding than HDV

2007-06-11 Thread Andraž Tori
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 17:39 +0200, Terje J. Hanssen wrote: > No response on this topic so far. Therefore I try again with two > follow-up questions: > > 1) Is Cinelerra capable to preserve mpeg2 with 4:2:2 color space > throughout the editing process? Yes, cinelerra internally works in 4:4:4. >

[CinCVS] Re: A better MPEG-2 encoding than HDV

2007-06-11 Thread Terje J. Hanssen
No response on this topic so far. Therefore I try again with two follow-up questions: 1) Is Cinelerra capable to preserve mpeg2 with 4:2:2 color space throughout the editing process? 2) Which types of video/audio formats can be edited with Cinelerra? (a list of all) Rgds, Terje

Re: [CinCVS] DVD render: output quality not so good

2007-06-11 Thread Joe Friedrichsen
On 6/10/07, Yannick Patois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- To render, I did exactly what's in the doc: created a small script containg: #!/bin/bash mpeg2enc -v 0 -K tmpgenc -r 16 -4 1 -2 1 -D 10 -E 10 -g 15 -G 15 -q 6 -b 8600 -f 8 -o $1 Well, you could increase th

Re: [CinCVS] High Definition Input

2007-06-11 Thread Aaron Newcomb
Using HDMI it should be possible to get close to raw uncompressed sensor data instead of what you get out of the firewire port which is already compressed. At least that is my understanding. Of course if you record to tape first instead of capturing direct from the camera it won't matter anyway si

Re: [CinCVS] reference monitor

2007-06-11 Thread Graham Evans
Christian Thaeter wrote: Kurt Georg Hooss wrote: aha! thanks christian. today i could test only with another computer monitor in twinview mode (resolution set to 768x576) and that worked fine. so i guess it will probably do well with the tv also. next time i have the tv set here i'll try t

Re: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} [CinCVS] another/ new cin-cvs compile error

2007-06-11 Thread Graham Evans
Jan Luo wrote: yeah, you are absolutely right! downgraded to ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070330 and all was good again - will this stay like this - no recent ffmpeg? thanks a lot! jan Glad it worked for you. Also nice to know an 'external' ffmpeg version which cinelerra is working with. There is a b

Re: [CinCVS] reference monitor

2007-06-11 Thread Christian Thaeter
Kurt Georg Hooss wrote: > aha! thanks christian. > > today i could test only with another computer monitor > in twinview mode (resolution set to 768x576) and that worked fine. > so i guess it will probably do well with the tv also. > > next time i have the tv set here i'll try to find out > whe

Re: [CinCVS] reference monitor

2007-06-11 Thread Kurt Georg Hooss
aha! thanks christian. today i could test only with another computer monitor in twinview mode (resolution set to 768x576) and that worked fine. so i guess it will probably do well with the tv also. next time i have the tv set here i'll try to find out whether two computer monitors *and* the tv

Re: [CinCVS] reference monitor

2007-06-11 Thread Christian Thaeter
Kurt Georg Hooss wrote: > o.k. i managed to configure the screen to be used as x terminal, > following the instructions at > http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/NVidia/TV-OUT > > essentially, the tv can be used as a separate x terminal or > as an extension of the desktop area (dual-head mode). in either

[CinCVS] DVD render: output quality not so good

2007-06-11 Thread Yannick Patois
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm trying for quite some time to get a decent output on DVD for my small movie. Until now, I've not been very successful. So, I'm now asking you for help, hoping for some solution. I posted a test for you to see my problem. In http://animati

Re: Vs: Re: Vs: [CinCVS] reference monitor

2007-06-11 Thread Kurt Georg Hooss
thanks flavio, that will probably be helpful (can't try right now). still, there probably remains the problem of dropped frames and what might be called "square rain" on the tv screen. so folks, are there any tricks to get the playback up to 25 fps? i mean p4 is not that weak is it? cheers georg

[CinCVS] DVD render: output quality not so good

2007-06-11 Thread Yannick Patois
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm trying for quite some time to get a decent output on DVD for my small movie. Until now, I've not been very successful. So, I'm now asking you for help, hoping for some solution. I posted a test for you to see my problem. In http://animatio

Re: [CinCVS] cinelerra on g5 (powerpc64)

2007-06-11 Thread rafael2k
are you using a linux distribution for 64 bits or 32 bits? 32 bits powerpc cinelerra is know to work (w/ or without altivec). I used to make the slackintosh (slack for ppc) packages, but my unique powerpc computer (a powerbook g3) broke... If you could maintain packages for ppc fedora, it would

Re: [CinCVS] High Definition Input

2007-06-11 Thread Marcin Kostur
Hi, What do you need HDMI for? Marcin ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra

Re: Vs: Re: Vs: [CinCVS] reference monitor

2007-06-11 Thread flavio
yes cinelerra's video output can go to both raw 1394 and dv 1394. neither of them did work here. I tried it myself once, it worked fine -> from cinelerra back to a dv cam. From there, you shouldn't have problems sending to a tv, as you've already made it. The "secret" was that, when the module d

Re: {Spam?} [CinCVS] another/ new cin-cvs compile error

2007-06-11 Thread Jan Luo
yeah, you are absolutely right! downgraded to ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070330 and all was good again - will this stay like this - no recent ffmpeg? thanks a lot! jan Graham Evans wrote: > >> what should the upper output tell me? > are you using external ffmpeg? fmpeg versions since about August 2006 >