I have used

The Catalyst 3548 uses the Cisco IOS command set, much like the Catalyst
2924XL.

You might want to look into the Catalyst 2948G (not 2948G-L3) for the
Catalyst OS command set.  It works just like the Catalyst 5000 series
without an RSM.  Keep in mind that the 2948G does not support ISL trunking
though; it only support 802.1Q trunking for your VLAN's).

This would be a much more cost effective than procuring a 5xxx series box.

Carl Nohrden, CCNA


----- Original Message -----
From: "Butcher, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Circusnuts'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Chuck Larrieu"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 8:02 AM
Subject: Lot of talk about 3548; but is it a VLAN router like the 5000?


> I did a search for router capability of the 3548 @
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca3500xl/prodlit/3500x_ds.htm
> I did not seem like the "VLAN" command set like the 5xxx.
> I have worked w/ the 3508g and it is Layer 2.
> I have worked w/ the 2948G-L3 w/ IRB BVI Layer 2 routing and Port Channel
> routing w/ sub interfaces Layer 3 routing.
> I have passed the BCMSN exam but found myself grasping from my experiences
> w/ these "poor man" 5xxx and 65xx switches. In my opinion it made the exam
> harder; I still got 883.
> Anyway now my company has taken an interest in my current lab (13 routers
> from 1005 ~ 4500m) but we need a vlan switch.
> The best I can think of is a used 5xxx from a reseller w/ a warranty. But
> that RSM is $20,000 new.
> Any thoughts?
>
> Matt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:43 AM
> To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Equipment needs - WAS: Why not supernetting?
>
>
> OUCH- been there done that !!!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 5:53 AM
> Subject: Equipment needs - WAS: Why not supernetting?
>
>
> > It is, of course, unethical for me to name names, but I do know of at
> least
> > one high school with 600 or so workstations, where the Cisco sales force
> > sold a 6509!
> >
> > I am also currently working with a client ( large and profitable
publicly
> > held company )  that is deploying 6509s in a number of warehouses as the
> > main machine for the computers used in that part of their operation. 150
> or
> > so in each warehouse, they tell me, and quote "not that much traffic"
> > Actually, each warehouse will have a 6509 and a 2924, linked via fiber.
> The
> > customer was adamant that they wanted the 100 megabit link because
gigabit
> > was too expensive. (!) I asked one of the engineers why they were going
> with
> > such high end equipment. I said I could get them excellent performance
> with
> > 3548's at a lot lower cost, since they seemed concerned with expenses.
The
> > guy kinda winked and told me the engineers pushed through the 6509
because
> > they wanted to be able to play with the advanced features.
> >
> > Well, hey, I can relate to that. ;->
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > Peter A van Oene
> > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 7:52 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Why not supernetting?
> >
> > You guys must be integrators!  She has a 5500 already, which although
> > somewhat dated, should be able to provide enough horsepower to route to
> 600
> > users in 5 or 6 subnets surely.
> >
> > I highly expect her issue is not lack of hardware related.  I expect
there
> > is a misconfiguration or faulty cabling at some point along the line.
> > Really, this type of troubleshooting is hard to do offline however :)
> >
> >
> >
> > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> >
> > On 11/11/2000 at 3:25 PM Brian W. wrote:
> >
> > >I couldn't agree more, a multiport switch connected to the router, then
> > >another switch for each area of worksations is the way I would go.
> > >
> > > Bri
> > >
> > >On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Donald B Johnson Jr wrote:
> > >
> > >> Your problem seems to be insufficient hardware.
> > >> Supernetting five subnets and putting 500 stations on one segement
will
> > >> cripple your network.
> > >> Duck
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: jeongwoo park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: Groupstudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:13 PM
> > >> Subject: Why not supernetting?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Hi All,
> > >> >
> > >> > I am looking for advice on a LAN performance issue. i
> > >> > am running primarily NT4 and win2K boxes on a 100Mbit
> > >> > UTP Ethernet LAN.
> > >> >
> > >> > my servers are on static IPs on one subnet while my
> > >> > clients pick up DHCP addresses (assigned out of my
> > >> > control) in any one of half a dozen other subnets.
> > >> > file transfer and printing performance between client
> > >> > and server is averaging 1Mbit/sec when computers are
> > >> > in different subnets. switch the same two computers to
> > >> > static IPs in the same subnet and throughput jumps to
> > >> > a respectable 30-70Mbit/sec. i need to keep the
> > >> > clients on DHCP as i don't have enough static IPs to
> > >> > go around for the subnet the servers are in.
> > >> >
> > >> > all clients and servers are attached to one of 5
> > >> > Allied Telesyn 8126XL 24-port managed switches. all 5
> > >> > of these "edge" switches connect to another switch of
> > >> > the same model with a 100Mbit multi-mode (1300
> > >> > nanometer) fiber uplink which connects to a Cisco
> > >> > Catalyst 5500 for our routing needs.
> > >> >
> > >> > When the clients are on different subnets the file
> > >> > transfers appear to take a long trip through the
> > >> > router with a huge performance penalty (1Mbit/sec).
> > >> > when the client and server are on the same subnet the
> > >> > packets do NOT appear to be routed (perhaps they are
> > >> > handled using ARP?) and the performance is very good.
> > >> > ping response times on both switches and routers is
> > >> > under 20ms. This is where I believe supernetting could
> > >> > be a solution to this slowness, because I think
> > >> > supernetting allows me to put all stations in the same
> > >> > subnet, witch avoids routing needs.
> > >> >
> > >> > I got some responses to my previous post from people
> > >> > saying that supernetting would slow down the speed
> > >> > because there would be too many stations in big
> > >> > broadcast domain, which contradicts what I am willing
> > >> > to do.
> > >> >
> > >> > Am i missing some key concepts here that might improve
> > >> > my understanding of this tragic performance?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > >> >
> > >> > take care,
> > >> >
> > >> > jw
> > >> >
> > >> >
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