Amen Brotha

But as long were not broke and get to play (i mean work) with bleeding edge
tech, and companies can afford this stuff, 

Then Drive on Cisco, Drive on!

Mark Snow
CCNP, CCDP, CQS - CIPT Design, CIPT Support

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe A
To: 'Nathan Chessin'; 'Albert Lu'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 10/14/02 11:52 AM
Subject: RE: Cisco ExecNet

Maybe I should say IP Telephony, not VoIP.  How many uncompressed,
toll-quality calls can you push out simultaneously over a T1???  Have
you done the math? 24?   Maybe 23 on a good day.  Sure, if you use
compression you can squeeze in quite a bit more, but you can't deny that
IPT is bandwidth-hungry, with streaming MOH, voicemail audio streams,
the calls themselves.  Believe me, VoIP is absolutely a bandwidth-hungry
app.  No one who understands the technology would deny that.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Chessin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 1:56 AM
To: 'Joe'; 'Albert Lu'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Cisco ExecNet


1) Since when is VoIP a "bandwidth-hungry app"

Nate

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of

> Joe
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:42 PM
> To: 'Albert Lu'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Cisco ExecNet
> 
> 
> Technology isn't necessarily heading in that direction - Cisco is 
> driving it there.  Bottom line is this: Cisco is traditionally a 
> router and switch manufacturer, and no one buys routers and switches 
> these days, at least not enough to provide continued growth for Cisco.
> Company infrastructures are already built, have been for 
> years, and are
> running for the most part nowhere near capacity.  These technology
> applications, besides generating hardware sales directly, will also
> increase bandwidth consumption, thereby causing indirect 
> hardware sales
> when customers upgrade their routers and switches to support the new
> bandwidth-hungry apps like VoIP.  If Cisco can drive the customers'
> purchases in that direction, they win.
> 
> My two cents.
> 
> Joe
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> Behalf Of
> Albert Lu
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:16 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: OT: Cisco ExecNet
> 
> 
> Hello Group,
> 
> Has anyone checked out the Cisco ExecNet, which is basically thoughts 
> about where technology is heading in the future from the VPs at Cisco.
> 
> http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/tln/execnet/
> 
> >From what they are saying (specifically Mike Volpi), the
> direction for
> technology is heading towards: CDN, Security, Wireless, IP Telephony, 
> VPN. Reegineering business processes to best utilise these 
> technologies in order to improve productivity and reduce cost for 
> enterprises.
> 
> Does anyone have any comments about this, and where money
> will be spent
> in the future for technologies?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Albert Lu
> CCIE #8705




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