One of the Cisco account managers with whom I work circulated information about a Cisco dial in VoIP demo. the way it works is that you call a number, choose from a menu, and you can hear VoIP, VoATM, and VoFrame demos. This apparently was set up to demonstrate to potential voice over customers that call quality is very good. I don't want to circulate the access number I was given without explicit Cisco permission, but for those of you who are Cisco customers or sell Cisco solutions, you may want to contact your Cisco account manager and ask for the information. It's pretty neet to check out the setup diagram, and then try the various options to compare quality. Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13793&t=13793 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]