Guys, I've noticed in my projects that Native OS is NOT a mature code & potentially you will run into problems, especially if you want the Native OS to do more than just layer-2 switching. Cisco will not recommend you to use the Native OS to support heavy-duty routing functionality. I think you might want to wait till the Native OS code gets stabilized if you expect to use a lot of "NICE" features shown on CCO documentation. have fun ! John -------------------------- ""Michael L. Williams"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Although there are some features that the Native IOS doesn't support that > the CatOS does, they are few and far between, and Cisco is quickly > integrating all CatOS functionality into Native IOS. I don't think moving > away from CatOS is a major loss. Using the Native IOS gives a uniformity to > the command line and the modes used to configure a piece of hardware, which > IMHO is a BIG plus for everyone involved. I disagree that Hybrid (CatOS) is > "far more intuitive, scalable and flexible". I say this because I'm much > more familiar with IOS commands than CatOS Set commands, so whether or not > it's more intuitive really depends on what you've used more. As far as > scalable and flexible, keep in mind it's the same hardware with the same > capabilites either way, so I can't say that using CatOS as opposed to Native > IOS makes much of a difference. If anything, using the Native IOS gives the > advantage of using Distributed CEF, which can't be done with Hybrid. IMHO, > Native IOS is more flexible because now every port in the chassis can be > used as a switchport or as a router interface. With the CatOS, you need to > designate a port in a VLAN, then go to the MSFC and assign an IP to that > VLAN, etc.... with Native, you simply configure that port as you would a > router interface and it's treated as such. I have noticed that most people > that order the 6500s don't get Native IOS on it, however CatOS is still the > default and many people aren't aware that Native IOS is even an option. > However, every single shop I've seen that is large is running Native because > it conserves IPs, etc...... > > If you get a chance, throw the Native IOS on a switch before you send it > out..... you can always convert back to CatOS. Just remember not to erase > the boot image from the MSFC bootflash =) (If you have MSFC2, you don't > need the boot image to use Native IOS. However, if you have MSFC1, you need > a boot image for Native IOS. No matter which MSFC you have, you need a boot > image for CatOS, so that's the one you don't wanna erase if you're just > wanting to "try out" Native and then convert back later) > > Here's a link on how to get from CatOS (Hybrid) to Native...... > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/81.shtml > > Here's a link on how to convert from Native back to Hybrid...... > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/80.shtml > > Enjoy!!! > > Mike W. > > "Christopher Supino" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > That would be a shame if it were true, as CatOS, for the platform it runs, > > is a far superior operating system IMHO. Far more intuitive, scaleable and > > flexible. I'd hate to see it go. I've implemented quite a few of the > > Cat6xxxs and I've never had a customer request Native IOS on the box, so I > > unfortunately have not seen it first hand. Have to try that pre-deployment > > on the next one. :) > > > > Chris Supino > > CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNA5, ASE > > Senior Network Design Engineer > > TransNet Corporation > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Michael L. Williams > > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 4:09 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Don't think this is true ! Re: CCIE One-Day Lab layout > > [7:18246] > > > > > > (without trying to piss off people that have spent money on a 5000) I sure > > hope they move the lab to the 6500 series....... my 2 cents. > > > > The 6500 can have 2 modes..... a Hybrid IOS, where the switch side of > things > > is run by the Cat OS and the MSFC is run by the IOS. Under that setup, > you > > would use the SET commands to configure the switch and IOS commands to > > configure the MSFC. The other mode is Native IOS, in which the switch and > > RSM are "combined" into a single router-esque unit. In Native IOS, you > use > > IOS commands to configure the MSFC/switch, but there are little > "CatOS-like" > > extensions to the IOS command to let you configure ports as switchports > > (instead of like router interfaces). > > > > I've heard many people say that Cisco is really pushing to get away from > > CatOS, so it wouldn't surprise me to see them use a 6500 running Native > IOS > > in the lab..... just a guess tho. > > > > Mike W. > > > > "Ahmed Mamoor Amimi" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Is 6500 the router SET base as those of 5000 series or the IOS like 1900 > > or > > > routers.... > > > > > > I also agree that they will not put PIX in the exam ..... i think that > > rack > > > will contain PIX but we will not have > > > to config it .... it will be for other CCIE track. > > > > > > -Mamoor > > > "Brian H. Jones" wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > I dont know about the PIX but the 6500s will replace the 5500s. That > > you > > > > can count on. > > > > > > > > > > > > "jc0" wrote in message > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > Guys, > > > > > > > > > > I DO NOT think this is true though. Unless someone can verify this > > with > > > > > Cisco. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ""Brad Ellis"" wrote in message > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > > Here's the info from the grapevine on the layout for the new > ONE-DAY > > > > CCIE > > > > > > Lab: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1x Cisco PIX > > > > > > 1x 2600 > > > > > > 3x 25xx > > > > > > 3x 3640 > > > > > > 1x 4000 (Frame router) > > > > > > 1x Cat 6509 > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the standard layout for all CCIE lab's except for WAN > > > switching. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gotta wonder if people will start seeing some Pix stuff on the > CCIE > > > R&S > > > > > > lab!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > -Brad Ellis > > > > > > CCIE#5796 > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Network Learning Inc > > > > > > Used Cisco: www.optsys.net Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=18313&t=18313 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
