At 4:49 PM +0000 10/2/02, Troy Edington wrote:
>Frame-Relay is a connection-oriented protocol, but is considered unreliable,
>it requires higher layer protocols to make it reliable (TCP)
>
>Connection oriented does not always mean reliable.
>
>Troy Edington, CCIE #7190


And there are connectionless reliable protocols, although some are rare.
             Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
             802.2 LLC Class 3
             X.25 Fast Select (you can argue here)
             Appletalk Transaction Protocol
These are some that come to mind.

>
>  > """"B.J. Wilson""""  wrote in message
>>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>  > Dear Silent Bob:
>>  >
>>  > Okay lunchbox, my co-workers and I are trying to figure out if Frame
>Relay
>>  is
>>  > connectionless or connection-oriented.  A lot of documentation I'm
>reading
>>  > says it *is*, but somewhere in the chasms of my memory banks I can't
>help
>>  but
>>  > think that it is *not*, because a) it would be redundant given TCP's
>>  function
>>  > and b) it would add latency to the Frame cloud, which is supposedly
>>  optimized
>>  > for speed (one of the improvements Frame made to X.25).  Am I right, or
>>  have
>>  > I
>>  > been hitting the pipe a little too hard lately?
>>  >
>>  > Your hetero life-mate,
>>  >
>  > > Jay




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