Mark,

If I'm reading your situation correctly, I think the problem 
comes from the back-to-back FR link. We use 2600 routers in labs 
to emulate FR switching between two or more FRAD routers, like 
this:

R1/FRAD    R3/FRswch    R2/FRAD

Since your goal is to get R1 and R2 to communicate in a 
LAN environment, you can plug them into a hub or switch, using 
a /30 subnet for the IP addresses on the interfaces. If you 
prefer to use the serial interfaces, use PPP or HDLC. 

I realize that you don't trust PPP, but it really is easy to 
configure and use. Is there some reason I'm not aware of that 
makes you shy away from PPP?

-- TT


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Subject: Let the flamin' begin....dumbass beginner question [7:43759]
Date: 9 May 2002 13:18:53 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("mark")
Organization: GroupStudy.com Discussion Groups
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco

I originally configured and maintain several Cisco routers at work so
I'm
not a TOTAL dumbass when it comes to routers but I sure do feel like
one
about now.
I have a couple of 2500's and a 2600 router with a couple of back to
back
cables. I'm not doing something correctly to allow the units to talk
to each
other using those cables. I can telnet into each router or connect via
console connection and all are working. The green lights come on the
serial
connections when the b to b cables are plugged in but I can't for the
life
of me get them to talk to each other. Can't ping from one serial port
on
subnet A thru the b-to-b cable to the serial port on the other router
on the
same subnet on any of the routers. I have checked and rechecked ip
info on
all. I have tried frame-relay and PPP (which I would NOT trust my
configuraion of but I do know frame OK - or at least I thought I did).
I
have RIP and EIGRP enabled on all and have them redistributing. I have
tried
the DCE and the DTE at each end. This is what maybe the particularly
dumbass
question - Do I need to set a clock rate or data rate for a frame
connection
using these cables? If so the commands required would be helpful. I
can look
at the options available. I just need to know where to start with
them. If
it's not a clock rate issue, have I given enough info for anyone to
give me
an educated guess as to what I'm doing wrong? If not, what other info
can I
provide?
Muchas gracias.

Mark "Gump"




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