I have a rare question for the group. :-) Looking at dumping a global frame-relay network between Europe/Asia/N. America (triangulated) that is VERY expensive. Want to create a VPN over the Internet that is secure (site-to-site). Have already considered the firewall-to-firewall solution. Cisco has a semi-new product called the 7100 series router that has the MPLS IPSec functionality. And my question is: Does anyone on this list have any real-world experience with this product line and if so what is your opinion on it and too feeling about MPLS IPSec VPN's in general. Thanks in advance, Eric _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]