Totally off the topic, but I have an opportunity to purchase a Copper = mountain DSLAM, live in a relatively small suburb of DC, & have DSL/ATM = experience. Any experience is applying for CLEC privileges (I fairly up = to speed with the ILEC & ISP dealings :-( Thanks=20 Phil _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]