Comments Inline: >>Cisco is not a Telco, so the wire service is not a valid source for info.
------You might want to talk to Chambers and Wall $treet about that. Service Provider, manufacturer they're all in the same financial boat. Just look at the 18% drop in Juniper stock today off the news of WorldCom. >>I could name at least 12 ILEC's that are making profits and have been for >>many years and this is only just a stagnant time for them. They will be >>moving forward in another year with huge network expansions. ------LOL!----There's so much damn capacity now it's sickening. There's half a dozen empty Colo's here in San Francisco alone. Cogentco is dumping 100meg garbage links for a $1000 a month. (Now only if they had decent peering.) >>The profitable and low debt companies are not too worried right now. ------Doesn't that translate into "Fat and Lazy". Jack be nimble, Jack be quick, Jack just stole the competitors client base. >>they will just ride the wave and use this time to cut some cost that is >>long over due. -------This is called "Piss down economics". 2,000,000 people and counting. >>just think of all the very large customers that will be fleeing WCOM. Most >>will head to the nearest ILEC. -------I think that most customers will look seriously at how much bandwidth they really need and dumping the excess if possible. >>At first thought is all the government contracts they have. Every >>government contract, state or federal, usually has provisions for them to >>null the contract if the company files Bankruptcy or is found to have >>committed illegal acts. --------Tax Bailout! Politicians rank high on the intelligence level, right up there with my toilet bowl. Look at the current California electrical power situation where the Governor locked this state into paying billions of dollars more than it should have for years to come. -Eric "Remember: Advice is worth only what you pay for it." ""Eric Rogers"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is HUGE for Telco in general...With the restatement this company will > have actually LOST money for over the past year... > > Just think about all the IOU's that this company has to all it's > vendor's, we're talking 30 Billion dollars in debt. It look's like > bankruptcy is coming soon for this company. What's Cisco's exposure to this? > I believe it's fair to say it's large, be it directly or indirectly. This > will be the largest bankruptcy in US history, hence world. WorldCom has > assets in excess of 105 Billion dollars. Compare this to Enron with 60 > Billion dollars. They will be cutting an already planned 16,000 employee's > this week. Who's next: Qwest? Just follow [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I read a couple of week's ago from one of the wire services that 24 of > the 29 major Telco's will go under. The so called safe one's where > Bellsouth, Cisco, SBC and some others. I've also picked up off of both > Reuters.com and Bloomberg.com that the Telco market is not expected to turn > around until maybe late 2003 and will be the last thing to pick up in a > revived economy. Look at all the companies failing in the US and Europe, the > drastic slide in the value of the US Dollar against the Euro and the Yen and > the fact that 2 million layoff's in the US last year, with 500,000 of those > from tech related jobs alone, it should become apparent to even the simplest > minds that things will become worse with these scandals coming out. Should > the US housing bubble burst kiss this economy good bye for the next five > years. > > "- There is already too much surplus equipment out there that it will take > years to absorb. And as far as jobs and hiring out in the world, well who's > going to quit there job because they didn't get a raise lately?-" > > JMHO.... :-0 > > -Eric > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:31 PM > Subject: Off Topic - Cisco vis a vis World Com [7:47505] > > > > So far today I have seen no word from Cisco on its exposure to World Com. > > > > the other so called players in the networking industry - Redback, Nortel, > > and Lucent, have all said they have very little on the line with WorldCom. > > Of course, these are companies with one foot in the grave already. > > > > WorldCom is one of Cisco's MAJOR customers. Cisco stock is back close to > > it's low of the last year. Maybe Cisco believes nothing needs be said? > Maybe > > Cisco figures they can still sell their stuff through other channels? > > > > As an employee of another of Cisco's major customers, maybe this bodes > well > > for me? with WorldCom out of the way, and no longer selling at cost to > steal > > my customers, maybe my own business will pick up? > > > > Sheesh, this is scary. > > > > Anybody out there know how what used to be UUNet is doing? Viable? Any > > repercussions through the ISP world? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=47543&t=47543 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
