Just got back from the test. It was pretty much what I expected. . . harder than hell. The achieves are pretty bare on advice on passing this so here goes: I got ahold of the CVOICE 2.0 course notes. This was a recommendation from the archives and believe me it was a good one. There wasn't one question I didn't recognize from the notes. I got an 875, so obviously recognizing it doesn't mean I got it right. The next valuable study resource was the Boson test, Cisco Voice over Frame Relay 1.0, test #1. The only weakness was very little attention to 'new world' telephony/CIPT. Other then that very good for the test. I didn't try test #2 Finally, I purchased the Voice over IP CIM. I would rank it third on the list. The hands on was very good, but it covers just a portion of the objectives. The test cover Voice over Frame Relay and ATM and there's nothing on the CIM regarding these technologies. I hope this helps someone. I will probably get rid of my CVOICE course notes, if your interested drop me an email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=Mike=- _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]