Ditto... Except my salesperson was a woman and she is STILL calling. They don't take no for an answer. My answering machine has at least two calls a week from this woman, even after telling them "No thank you, my company paid for my training" BEWARE SMARTCERTIFY! The most pushy telemarketers in the business. ************************************************************************ Brad Stanfield Network Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Government Micro Resources Network Operations Control Center Bldg 33 NAVSEA NCOE 757-393-9526 -----Original Message----- From: Bharat Suneja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CBT Training Options - Forefront Besides, I think ForeFront (now SmartCertify) sales guys are TOO PUSHY AND PERSISTENT - they kept calling me repeatedly inspite of the fact that I got really annoyed with them and clearly asked them never to call me again and that I'm NOT interested at all in their product any more. I write this to the group so that everyone thinks twice before leaving their name/address/phone number/e-mail on their web site before downloading the demos - earlier today I was woken up by the same over-zealous sales guy from Forefront and it wasn't the first time.... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ("Oh, I was wondering if you're still interested in the CCNA CBT.... NO, I'M NOT - REPEAT - NOT INTERESTED IN THE DAMN CCNA CBT FROM YOUR COMPANY.. NOW WHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ???") The sales tactics used : The list price of the CCNA CBT is $1800, but they'll give you all kinds of discounts (bring the price down to about $1200 or so), and if you express your inability to buy an expensive CBT product (which isn't worth the money, imho, going by the demo I downloaded), they will try to sell you all kinds of installment plans to sell you the CBT, throw in freebies (buy CCNA 1.0 now and we'll throw in CCNA 2.0/ICND for free)... anything to make you buy! CAVEAT EMPTOR My $0.02 worth... :-) Bharat Suneja ""Guyler, Rik [EESUS]"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have to agree here. My company purchased the ForeFront CCNA CBT last year for my training. The cost was $1800 (US), which also included ACRC. While not bad for an overview, there were gaps left open in the end. What I did find useful was the visualization that the CBT provided. I used the books to get the complete coverage of the material and then the CBT for visualization of some of the more complex topics. All in all, however, I don't think I would waste that much money again for CBTs. I passed my next 3 CCNP tests with only books and resources from the web (well, this group too, of course!) and found this method, while somewhat lengthier, to be more complete. If time is critical, take the class and get it over with. You'll get class materials to continue your studies as well as an instructor to answer questions all day long (hopefully). Good luck! Rik -----Original Message----- From: Marshal Schoener [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 4:44 PM To: 'Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor'; CiscoGroupstudy Subject: RE: CBT Training Options (CCNP) I had the one for the CCNA. I really didn't like it much... It had some good info, but it's too slow. Too much clicking for the next screen and stuff :-) I just can't stand the format, I would rather read a book. If you can't take the actual class, buy a few good books :-) -----Original Message----- From: Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 1:02 PM To: CiscoGroupstudy Subject: CBT Training Options (CCNP) I've been battling it out with a local company here in San Diego to begin night classes geared towards CCNP. But thus far they're sticking to their day only schedule. They've instituted that e-learning program but still, if you can't get the time off to go to their site, you also can't get the time to sit at work and do it. This leads me to ask if anyone knows about good CBT training that covers the tests for CCNP? ___________________________________ ___________________________________ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___________________________________ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CBT Training Options - Forefront
Stanfield Hilman B(Brad) CONT NNSY Tue, 08 Aug 2000 05:23:14 -0700
- CBT Training Options - Forefront Bharat Suneja
- Stanfield Hilman B(Brad) CONT NNSY