RE: CBT Training Options - Forefront

[Stanfield Hilman B(Brad) CONT NNSY]

Ditto... Except my salesperson was a woman and she is STILL calling. They
don't take no for an answer.
My answering machine has at least two calls a week from this woman, even
after telling them "No thank you, my company paid for my training"
BEWARE SMARTCERTIFY! The most pushy telemarketers in the business.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bharat Suneja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CBT Training Options - Forefront


Besides, I think ForeFront (now SmartCertify) sales guys are TOO PUSHY AND
PERSISTENT - they kept calling me repeatedly inspite of the fact that I got
really annoyed with them and clearly asked
them never to call me again and that I'm NOT interested at all in their
product any more.

I write this to the group so that everyone thinks twice before leaving their
name/address/phone number/e-mail on their web site before downloading the
demos - earlier today I was woken up by the same over-zealous sales guy from
Forefront and it wasn't the first time.... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr   ("Oh, I was
wondering if you're still interested in the CCNA CBT.... NO, I'M NOT -
REPEAT - NOT INTERESTED IN THE DAMN CCNA CBT FROM YOUR COMPANY.. NOW WHAT
PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ???")

The sales tactics used : The list price of the CCNA CBT is $1800, but
they'll give you all kinds of discounts (bring the price down to about $1200
or so), and if you express your inability to buy an expensive CBT product
(which isn't worth the money, imho, going by the demo I downloaded), they
will try to sell you all kinds of installment plans to sell you the CBT,
throw in freebies (buy CCNA 1.0 now and we'll throw in CCNA 2.0/ICND for
free)... anything to make you buy!

CAVEAT EMPTOR

My $0.02 worth... :-)

Bharat Suneja



""Guyler, Rik [EESUS]"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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I have to agree here.  My company purchased the ForeFront CCNA CBT last year
for my training.  The cost was $1800 (US), which also included ACRC.  While
not bad for an overview, there were gaps left open in the end.  What I did
find useful was the visualization that the CBT provided.  I used the books
to get the complete coverage of the material and then the CBT for
visualization of some of the more complex topics.  All in all, however, I
don't think I would waste that much money again for CBTs.  I passed my next
3 CCNP tests with only books and resources from the web (well, this group
too, of course!) and found this method, while somewhat lengthier, to be more
complete.  If time is critical, take the class and get it over with.  You'll
get class materials to continue your studies as well as an instructor to
answer questions all day long (hopefully).
Good luck!
Rik
-----Original Message-----
From:   Marshal Schoener [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, August 03, 2000 4:44 PM
To:     'Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor'; CiscoGroupstudy
Subject:        RE: CBT Training Options (CCNP)
I had the one for the CCNA.  I really didn't like it much...
It had some good info, but it's too slow.  Too much clicking for the next
screen and stuff :-)  I just can't stand the format, I would rather read a
book.
If you can't take the actual class, buy a few good books :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 1:02 PM
To: CiscoGroupstudy
Subject: CBT Training Options (CCNP)


I've been battling it out with a local company here in San Diego to begin
night classes geared towards CCNP.  But thus far they're sticking to their
day only schedule.  They've instituted that e-learning program but still, if
you can't get the time off to go to their site, you also can't get the time
to sit at work and do it.
This leads me to ask if anyone knows about good CBT training that covers the
tests for CCNP?
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