Thanks for the info Brad. Would be a real nice addition to the lab. My biggest problem is money (4 kids, wife , dog, etc ) so always looking for a way to save some bucks. Wont be taking the Lab for about a year for that reason but Im learning like crazy so time is well spent. Again Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad Ellis Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Setup [7:17399] Dan, That's a great way to do ISDN. It definitely is initially cheaper than using an ISDN sim. On the other hand, you may have to wait 2 months before the telco will install the line. Some telco's charge big $$ to install and activate an ISDN line. You also need to take into account the monthly charge and all of the friendly taxes that are applied to your ISDN monthly bill. If you can afford the upfront $$, I'd recommend purchasing an ISDN sim. It also can come in handy if you work with other engineers and want to combine equipment at times. You are not limited by location. The prices in ISDN sims have substantially dropped. Groupstudy members can get them for $1300/pc. Hopefully Paul will be putting the information up on his web page under the Discounts section shortly. Until then, feel free to contact me for information. -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ""Dan Faulk"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > One way to save a good sum of money is to have the telco pull you a > 2B1D(Bri) ISDN line and use one B channel per router. Does everthing except > multilink (and that can be done with a willing partner) and costs a lot less > than a simulator (most Ive seen run $1500-2500 compared to about $300 in > telco charges). Might want to do this towards the end to keep costs down and > cancel the service when finished. Anybody know a different way would be > great to hear it. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17487&t=17487 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]