Thanks for the info Brad. Would be a real nice addition to the lab.
My biggest problem is money (4 kids, wife , dog, etc ) so always looking
for a way to save some bucks.
Wont be taking the Lab for about a year for that reason but Im learning like
crazy so time is well spent. Again Thanks.


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Brad Ellis
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Dan,

That's a great way to do ISDN.  It definitely is initially cheaper than
using an ISDN sim.  On the other hand, you may have to wait 2 months before
the telco will install the line.  Some telco's charge big $$ to install and
activate an ISDN line.  You also need to take into account the monthly
charge and all of the friendly taxes that are applied to your ISDN monthly
bill.  If you can afford the upfront $$, I'd recommend purchasing an ISDN
sim.  It also can come in handy if you work with other engineers and want to
combine equipment at times.  You are not limited by location.  The prices in
ISDN sims have substantially dropped.  Groupstudy members can get them for
$1300/pc.  Hopefully Paul will be putting the information up on his web page
under the Discounts section shortly.  Until then, feel free to contact me
for information.

-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
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""Dan Faulk""  wrote in message
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> One way to save a good sum of money is to have the telco pull you a
> 2B1D(Bri) ISDN line and use one B channel per router. Does everthing
except
> multilink (and that can be done with a willing partner) and costs a lot
less
> than a simulator (most Ive seen run $1500-2500 compared to about $300 in
> telco charges). Might want to do this towards the end to keep costs down
and
> cancel the service when finished. Anybody know a different way would be
> great to hear it.




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