Astute Engineers -

     Brad's been a friend of mine for over 3 years - I can vouch for his
technical expertise as well as his personal
ethics.  Obviously,  with Brad's technical skill and the success of CCIE
Boot Camp there is a chance for the two
to help each other out as well as help other engineers earn the title CCIE.
I've also used the labs from CCIE Boot
Camp - and can say that they DID give me a great feel for the technically
challenging CCIE Lab.  I think the issue
here is "personal opinion".  We should all remember that this is a PUBLIC
mailing list.  There are going to be
some "sour grapes" on the list who like to complain and cause problems - and
those people should be ignored.
There's nothing wrong with what www.cciebootcamp.com or www.optsys.net are
doing - Anyone on this list who
is pursuing their CCIE should be grateful that they are offering their
services and "sharing the wealth"!!!

Wayne Lawson, SE - Cisco Systems
CCIE # 5244, CCNA & CCDA, Nortel NCSE,
MCSE, CNE, CBE, CNX Ethernet

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Farrell A. Fletcher
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 6:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fw: In defence of Brad


I have purchased several pieces of equipment from Brad.  Not only did he
sell me the equipment, he also assisted me in configuring it (Cat5000, VOIP,
etc).  Heck he even gave me his home number so if I needed assistance I
could him (which I did).  So you tell me, is this not contributing to this
list???

Farrell A. Fletcher
CCNP, MCSE

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ronald James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: In defence of Brad


> Although I never purchased anything from Brad, I would say if he can offer
> equipments to the list at a fair price(which he did), why not?  Concerning
> he do business in this list, well, frankly speaking, he did contribute to
> this list, and some of the tech people within the list.  Most importantly,
> he can help us to get the low-priced equipments, plus he is able to make
> money out of that.  Then, we are in 'WIN-WIN' scenario, why not?
>
>
> "ian gomeche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 015d01bffa16$cccbdc40$f6bc49c2@oemcomputer">news:015d01bffa16$cccbdc40$f6bc49c2@oemcomputer...
> > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:24:52 -0400
> > "Chuck Church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
> >
> >
> > 'In Brad's defense, he's helped me with a couple problems.  A lot of
> CCIE's
> > don't bother helping other people after they cross over to CCIE land.
> He's
> > still on the list helping others, in addition to selling stuff.  If I
had
> a
> > way to help other people learn Cisco and also make money, I'd do it.'
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I would agree with Chuck. Nothing wrong with a little self promotion
from
> a
> > list regular (as opposed to unsolicited spam from an outsider). I think
by
> > helping others, Brad is deserving of a little 'slack' from some of you.
> >
> > It takes a microsecond (or so) to skip over a discreete 'advert' as
> opposed
> > to much longer to skip over HTML junk and repeated large chunks of
> previous
> > postings.
> >
> > Point made perhaps?
> >
> > ian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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