set the clock-rate and just use HDLC. You only need to set the 
clocking on one side.

-----Original Message-----
From: mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:19 PM
To: cisco
Cc: mark
Subject: Let the flamin' begin....dumbass beginner question [7:43759]


I originally configured and maintain several Cisco routers at work so 
I'm
not a TOTAL dumbass when it comes to routers but I sure do feel like one
about now.
I have a couple of 2500's and a 2600 router with a couple of back to 
back
cables. I'm not doing something correctly to allow the units to talk to 
each
other using those cables. I can telnet into each router or connect via
console connection and all are working. The green lights come on the 
serial
connections when the b to b cables are plugged in but I can't for the 
life
of me get them to talk to each other. Can't ping from one serial port on
subnet A thru the b-to-b cable to the serial port on the other router 
on the
same subnet on any of the routers. I have checked and rechecked ip info 
on
all. I have tried frame-relay and PPP (which I would NOT trust my
configuraion of but I do know frame OK - or at least I thought I did). I
have RIP and EIGRP enabled on all and have them redistributing. I have 
tried
the DCE and the DTE at each end. This is what maybe the particularly 
dumbass
question - Do I need to set a clock rate or data rate for a frame 
connection
using these cables? If so the commands required would be helpful. I can 
look
at the options available. I just need to know where to start with them. 
If
it's not a clock rate issue, have I given enough info for anyone to 
give me
an educated guess as to what I'm doing wrong? If not, what other info 
can I
provide?
Muchas gracias.

Mark "Gump"




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