Peter... if you are so concerned with SPAM, why do you use a Hotmail Account to communicate on the Internet?!?! You're not going to tell me that you have successfully B!tched out the admins of the Hotmail servers for allowing all that CRAP that shows up on a weekly (sometimes daily) basis about "how to make $5000-$15000 a week with your own home business", or the annoying porn solicitations that we are all flooded with regularly!
I know this is beside the point, but gimme a break! SPAM!?! As far as CCBootCamp, or any of the others that were affiliated with such offering systems..., I may be wrong, but I've been on reading this list for two years now, and wise-cracks like you RAN them off, rather than them being filtered. Brad Ellis, Marc Russel, and several others used to get similar flack, and now they simply don't participate anymore. Go figure... someone like you makes it even more difficult to weed through the search engine results to find Human Oppinions on who has the most fair or greatest deal on Cisco Certification prep materials... whether it's hardware for the "home lab", or "paper practice labs", or racktime.... Also, as far as credibility goes... there are PH.Ds out there that call themselves Doctors... but that doesn't mean EVERY ONE OF THEM know Internal Medicine or other Advanced Medical Science.... So, do you challenge them too just because they call themselves Doctors!?!! (note that this analogy is based on the principle that most "simple folk" only think of the person they go to when they are ill when they hear the term Doctor.) There are many Network Engineers out there that have been in the industry since probably before you took your first breath... and they have probably had the opportunity to get certified in a VENDOR-SPECIFIC certification, but chose not to... doesn't mean they don't know their Sh!t... just means they didn't feel like wasting money on Career Politics. They just now have to deal with the Pointy-Haired bosses that think that just because the young-buck with a number behind his name is better than himself because young-buck is a "CCIE". Total BS. My mentor has been dealing with Cisco routers and switches since they first came out... and he isn't a CCIE.... but he still knows his stuff. He too could teach others for monetary gain... but he just isn't interested.... he has a pretty busy schedule as it is, and prefers the one-on-one approach. This doesn't mean I'm going to put my cocky nose to the air and say, forget you man... you're not a CCIE, so I'm going elswhere. (of course, I'd first have to establish a cocky demeanor first, but you should DEFINITELY get the point.) Bottom line, please don't waste anymore bandwidth on this issue... and if you still have such a thorn in your side.... Get the Damned number, come back and show ALL of us a thing or to... and then you can feel all Big-Man-on-Campus like. Of course, with your current attitude, I doubt anyone will listen.... but that's just MHO. BTW, Howard, thanks for all the contributions you put forth on this forum.... I for one really appreciate them. There's nothing like free knowledge for those who can barely afford to participate in this career field. Sincerely, Mark Odette II CCNA, .75%CCNP, MCSE 4.0/2000, A+ certified. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of JP Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 9:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Some free scenarios and tutorials (slight correction) [7:43066] Peter, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Rosenthal" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:11 AM Subject: Re: Some free scenarios and tutorials (slight correction) [7:42985] > > Besides, who wants to read CCIE prep material from a guy that hasn't even > passed the lab! Howard does us all a favor and please go take the lab. > You're so awesome with all your books and work on the IETF so it should be a > breeze. No excuses! I disagree with you on this comment. There are coaches and players. In order to pass the lab you will have to know the stuff and be able to type it in time, some people may just do feel comfortable under some pressure, I am not saying this is the case for anyone for sure, but to me, not being a CCIE just means not having that number, period. You do not have to be a world champion to coach your team to win it. I am not saying who claims to be a coach is certainly capable of being a good one, but we just cannot logically rule that out. IMHO, the owner of the list owns the list. The owner has the freedom to give some kind of privileges to anybody. That said, I think no matter how much free stuff is in there, it is an underestimation of people's intelligence claming that this kind of posting is non-business related. People open mails everyday know this for sure. Just my .02 Kent Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=43146&t=43146 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
