Re: Re: More Excellent VoIP Configuration Info [7:29559]

2001-12-19 Thread Steven A Ridder
I see what oyur saying. With my referenced formula you would do 10/1000 to get milliseconds, not .010/1000. I just use 10/1000. I could simply write Bc=Cir(.010) like you did. I guess it's confusing. My bad. And The reason I got 36.4 ms and you got .04 ms is cause you did it correctly and I

Re: Re: More Excellent VoIP Configuration Info [7:29559]

2001-12-19 Thread John Neiberger
I was meaning that perhaps he uses Kbps instead of bps for the CIR or milliseconds instead of seconds for the interval. According to his formula, Bc=CIR(Tc/1000). Let's use a 256k circuit with 10ms as an example: Bc=256000(.010/1000) = 2.56 That doesn't quite work out. As you can see, Tc in t

Re: Re: More Excellent VoIP Configuration Info [7:29559]

2001-12-19 Thread Steven A. Ridder
The config for the bottom of this page is correct for FRF.12 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/voice-qos/voip-ov-fr-qos.html#first Plus we're arguing about the same thing. If Tc=Bc/Cir, or Bc=CIR(Tc/1000) and we have Cir=256000 Tc=10ms Bc=? With your formula, you get 2560 and with mine you

Re: Re: More Excellent VoIP Configuration Info [7:29559]

2001-12-19 Thread Steven A. Ridder
No we all use ms, including Wendel Odom. ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Actually, that web page is correct. Tc = Bc/CIR, and the > answer is in seconds. If you get an answer such as .125, that > is 1/8th of a second, or 125ms. > > At work we

Re: Re: More Excellent VoIP Configuration Info [7:29559]

2001-12-18 Thread John Neiberger
Actually, that web page is correct. Tc = Bc/CIR, and the answer is in seconds. If you get an answer such as .125, that is 1/8th of a second, or 125ms. At work we use a Bc of 5120 on 512k links. 5120/512000 = .010, or 10ms, which is the recommended interval. It all depends on what units yo

Re: More Excellent VoIP Configuration Info [7:29559]

2001-12-18 Thread Steven A. Ridder
I believe the true calculation for the interval (Tc) is Bc=CIR(Tc/1000). This web page over-simplifies it. I have read in varoius sources (Intergrating Voice and Data Network, and from Wendel Odom himself, that it's actually the above calculation. I have other problem wih CCO web pages also, esp

Re: More Excellent VoIP Configuration Info [7:29559]

2001-12-18 Thread John Neiberger
I only see two examples on that page that are different. The first is on a 56k link, Bc=1000 and CIR=56000. Bc/CIR = .0178, or basically 18ms. I know that's higher than the recommended 10ms, but perhaps there are drawbacks to lowering the Bc below 1000 that I'm not aware of. The other example

Re: More Excellent VoIP Configuration Info [7:29559]

2001-12-18 Thread Steven A. Ridder
Forgive me, you have a Tc of 36.4ms, not a serialization delay. But the packets went out at 10ms or less, so you have 26.4 ms lest to wait before you can build more credit. Tc should = serialization. ""Steven A. Ridder"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > The bc i

Re: More Excellent VoIP Configuration Info [7:29559]

2001-12-18 Thread Steven A. Ridder
The bc info for the Frame-Relay traffic shaping info on that page is wrong. One should always target Bc to get a Tc of 10ms, but the config examples are more like a Bc of 36.4. So you have the serialization delay time at 36.4, but optimally you want 10ms. The packets will be going out at 10ms (o