Thank you for the archives. I was just playing with my new 2501 and was having a problem with the line protocol being down. Looked through my books, looked on Cisco's site, couldn't find the answer (I'm sure it's on Cisco's site I just couldn't find it). Wrote a message asking for help, but before sending, I remembered the archives. Can't ask for help without trying there, can I? Searched on 'line protocol down' and found my answer in about the fourth message I viewed. 'no keepalives'. Doh! So this message is just a thank you and a reminder to check the archives before posting for help, the answer may already be in there. Matt Wehland _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]