At 3:53 PM +0000 1/3/03, Mr piyush shah wrote: > > >Dear all >I thing it is now a real high time someone should take >initiative in stoping the subject of CCIE vs BS or MS >degree. Why are we here for ? to discuss and share >problems faced on networking front
All joking aside, I think this is the key point, and something that a lot of people miss. I do know, partially from private email, that there are a substantial number of people that lose track of the relevance of academic (not necessarily ATTENDING college or getting degrees) material and focus completely on certification. A couple of personal observations: I have no interest in getting into top corporate management, but I have and will be in senior technology management. nrf, it seems, distinguishes simply between management and non-management. In Cisco's case, I'd have no interest in John Chambers' job, but I might in Christine Hemrick's -- a former colleague at GTE. Much of the drive for certification (and indeed degrees) is getting into the door for the first job. While, admittedly, I am having some fun with certain people, I'm deadly serious that some of the more formal technical skills need to be understood if you stay technical but move out of support. >or discusing >whether BS is SUPERIOROR ccie . Let me tell you both >the degreees are best in their unique ways . Who the >heil are we to decide it's superioritY ? lIKE i >MENTIONED WE ALL ARE INDIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE one >whosoever raised this querry by getting involved in >this question-answer forum . I thing we should stop >it.There are lot many imp things on which we need to >condcentrate more. >Hope so the message is loud and clear to all those >participant to these group . > >Regards > > >Note: forwarded message attached. > >________________________________________________________________________ >Missed your favourite TV serial last night? Try the new, Yahoo! TV. > visit http://in.tv.yahoo.com >X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via web8002.mail.in.yahoo.com; > 03 Jan 2003 03:45:39 +0500 (IST) >X-Track: 1: 100 >Return-Path: >Received: from groupstudy.com (66.220.63.9) by mta101.in.mail.yahoo.com > with SMTP; 03 Jan 2003 03:45:37 +0500 (IST) >Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by groupstudy.com > (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA30437; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:52:13 GMT >Received: by groupstudy.com (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 2 Jan 2003 > 21:16:19 +0000 >Received: (from listserver@localhost) by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id > VAA17958 GroupStudy Mailer; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:16:18 GMT >Received: (from mail@localhost) by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id > VAA17954 GroupStudy Mailer; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:16:17 GMT >Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:16:17 GMT >From: "l0stbyte" >X-GroupStudy-Version: 3.1.1a >X-GroupStudy: Network Technical >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481] >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: "l0stbyte" >Precedence: bulk >Content-Length: 731 > >Ladrach, Daniel E. wrote: > >> I have an MIS degree from The Ohio State University Max Fisher College of >> Business. I see some posts out there saying that a CS degree is no >> more than >> a vocational degree. Obviously this person has not been to college! >> College >> is not there to prepare you to step in and do a Sr. Engineer job, it is >> there to give you a base understanding of IT. I however, have a business >> degree with an IT focus. So, when you have been through the classes I have >> you form a level of respect for anyone who has been down the same road. >> >> When the CCIE gets as challenging as the following let me know. >> >> Calculus >> Physics >> Finance >> Accounting >> Economics >> CS-programming >> CS-operating systems >> CS-networking >> >> >> >> Daniel Ladrach >> CCNA, CCNP >> WorldCom >All of the listed should be thought in high school. Unless it's some >kind of quantum programming (is it still a concept?), CCIE should be by >far more challenging. My two cents.. >:) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=60218&t=60218 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]