I think he would tell you but he still lives at home and he doesn't want you to do donuts on his Mom's front lawn. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael L. Williams" To: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 9:14 AM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6985] > Yes, please...... let's end this.... > > I understand news servers, Sir. I've configured and installed many of them. > They're not complex. I understand them enough to know that if you weren't > scared to, you could take 10 seconds in your news reader to enter your REAL > name and e-mail address. I also understand that you're not brave enough to > because all you've given is nothing but fake names, e-mail addresses, and > credentials the whole time. > > Please don't waste anymore bandwidth until you're ready to stop hiding > behind a shield of anonymity. > > "Me" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > You must be a GREAT GURU who couldn't even even figure out how the > > groupstudy news server works and how you have been getting your mails.. ha > > ha ha.... > > Could someone tell this poor guy how the news server for groupstudy have > > been configured so that he can understand .... I think it's too > complicated > > !!! In any case, don't bother emailing me because talking to you would be > a > > absolute waste of time if you cannot understand a simple news-server, how > > can I even discuss anything technical with you.... ha ha ha..... > > > > Let's end this... > > > > > > ""Michael L. Williams"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > You don't even deserve a rebuttal, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". You won't > > even > > > say who you are...... 50,000 workstations my ass.... while you're making > > up > > > fake credentials, why not just say it was 100,000 workstations or 1 > > million. > > > > > > "Me" wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Guess I have not read any CCNA books recently.... > > > > > > > > I won't even bother to flame you for the "joke??" . When you find me a > > > unix > > > > admin who can plan the deployment of 50,000 workstation and > successfully > > > > roll it out, we can discuss again.... > > > > > > > > ""Michael L. Williams"" wrote in message > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > In case you haven't noticed, most CCNA books point out the fact that > > the > > > > IOS > > > > > uses a "Unix-ish" shell, with command line completion, etc. just > like > > > > Unix. > > > > > > > > > > Some of the low end equipment, like the 700 series and the 1900s > allow > > > you > > > > > to use a web interface, but virtually everything else is command > > > line..... > > > > > > > > > > Can you provide facts showing that the IOS *isn't* Unix-ish? > Perhaps > > > > Cisco > > > > > is working on a GUI, (don't flame me for this ... it's a joke), > > they're > > > > > working on a GUI so all the NT admins can have a chance at becoming > > > Cisco > > > > > gurus =) > > > > > > > > > > Mike W. (former NT admin) > > > > > > > > > > "Jason" wrote in message > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > > Oh, now the IOS is Unixish ?? Phew, so by that token, all Unix > > experts > > > > > would > > > > > > be CCIE... so I guess the number would include all the so call > > > > Unix/Linux > > > > > > "experts" > > > > > > I don't remember mentioning that the ATM runs NT, most of them > > > actually > > > > > run > > > > > > OS2. The extra $$ you save from using open?? source OS would be > > waste > > > on > > > > > > support.... > > > > > > > > > > > > In case you have not notice, Cisco is working on a GUI.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ""Kelly Hair"" wrote in message > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > > > "Jason" - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By your logic, Windows NT 3.1 is all you need for your > Enterprise > > to > > > > > > > succeed. Good luck in that endevour! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In response to your other point, yes, I would trust my ATM > server > > to > > > > > > Linux. > > > > > > > The blue screen is pretty but I would prefer to have money > > instead. > > > > > Oh.. > > > > > > > not to mention the extra money I would have from using a an open > > > > source > > > > > OS > > > > > > > rather than an M$ one... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps Cisco should throw out the Unixish IOS and replace it > with > > a > > > > GUI > > > > > > so > > > > > > > everyone could write configs for routers. Sounds like a grand > > > idea... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Kelly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What was your point ? That Multics sucks , and by the same > > token, > > > > > > > > therefore Unix sucks and NT/W2K rules !!! At least, NT/W2K was > > > based > > > > > on > > > > > > > > a working operating system. Anyone of you notice that Unix is > > all > > > > > about > > > > > > > > ego ? If Unix is finished in 1 month, why are there still > people > > > > > > > > working on it ? On the other hand, if Unix is perfect, why the > > > hell > > > > > are > > > > > > > > people working on it ? If Unix promotes innovation, why is > > nobody > > > > > using > > > > > > > > it ? Would you trust you ATM machine to Linux ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ""Jim Dixon"" wrote in message > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > > > >> THE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE B > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> ABSTRACT > > > > > > > >> B is a computer language designed by D. M. Ritchie and K. L. > > > > > Thompson, > > > > > > > >> for primarily non-numeric applications such as system > > > programming. > > > > > > > >> These typically involve complex logical decision-making, and > > > > > > > >> processing of integers, characters, and bit strings. On the > > H6070 > > > > TSS > > > > > > > >> system, B programs are usually much easier to write and > > > understand > > > > > > > >> than assembly language programs, and object code efficiency > is > > > > almost > > > > > > > >> as good. Implementation of simple TSS subsystems is an > > especially > > > > > > > >> appropriate use for B. This > > > > > > > > technical > > > > > > > >> report contains a description of the MH-TSS (Honeywell 6070) > > > > version > > > > > > > >> of B (by S. C. Johnson), and a tutorial introduction to most > of > > > the > > > > > > > >> features of the language (by B. W. Kernighan). > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Ken Thompson > > > > > > > >> The principal inventor of the Unix operating system and > author > > > of > > > > > > > >> the B language, the predecessor of C. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> In the early days Ken used to hand-cut Unix distribution > tapes, > > > > often > > > > > > > >> with > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > >> note that read "Love, ken". Old-timers still use his first > name > > > > > > > >> (sometimes uncapitalised, because it's a login name and mail > > > > address) > > > > > > > >> in third-person reference; it is widely understood (on Usenet > > in > > > > > > > >> particular) that without > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > >> last name "Ken" refers only to Ken Thompson. Similarly, > Dennis > > > > > without > > > > > > > > last > > > > > > > >> name means Dennis Ritchie (and he is often known as dmr). > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Ken was first hired to work on the Multics project, which was > a > > > > huge > > > > > > > >> production with many people working on it. Multics was > supposed > > > to > > > > > > > >> support hundreds of on-line logins but could barely handle > > three. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> In 1969, when Bell Labs withdrew from the project, Ken got > fed > > up > > > > > with > > > > > > > >> Multics and went off to write his own operating system. > People > > > said > > > > > > > >> "well, if zillions of people wrote Multics, then an OS > written > > by > > > > one > > > > > > > >> guy must be Unix!". There was some joking about eunichs as > > well. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Ken's wife Bonnie and son Corey (then 18 months old) went to > > > visit > > > > > > > >> family > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > >> San Diego. Ken spent one week each on the kernel, file > system, > > > > etc., > > > > > > > >> and finished UNIX in one month along with developing SPACEWAR > > (or > > > > was > > > > > > > >> it > > > > > > > > "Space > > > > > > > >> Travel"?). > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > >> From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:40 PM > > > > > > > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >> Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT > > > guys? > > > > > > > >> [7:6675] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >Want to make any UNIX-head apoplex? Remind them that DOS is > > > UNIX > > > > > > > >> >subset. The multi-tasking & multi-threaded functions were > > > dropped > > > > > > > >> >because there weren't enough bits in the registers for the > > Intel > > > > > > > >> >8088. These were added back in when the hardware for PC's > was > > > > > > > >> >available. However, they did add better mnemonics for the > UNIX > > > > > > > >> >commands so 'ls' became 'dir'. 'Easy' translates to 'stupid' > > > > > somehow. > > > > > > > >> >But even so it's UNIX! DOS is UNIX! tee-hee. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >DOS clowns. > > > > > > > >> >UNIX dweebs. > > > > > > > >> >NT geeks. > > > > > > > >> >Cisco nerds. > > > > > > > >> >Where's Diane Arbus when we need her? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >- susan > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Get back to the origins of the name UNIX. Pronounced aloud, > is > > > > there > > > > > > > >> an English word that comes to mind? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> The ancestor of UNIX is MULTICS. UNIX is castrated MULTICS. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Extra credit for the two predecessors of C. (No, the first > one > > > > isn't > > > > > > > >> A). > > > > > > > > Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7131&t=7131 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
