Hello, I was hoping although this isn't a Cisco problem, being a newsgroup about routing someone could help. Anyway this is being done on Gated ver3.6. Below is the topology and config, although the config changes from machine to machine. This is basically the setup I have. When I use just PPPoE and no regular ethernet, no problem. And of course the opposite is true as well. As soon as I go from an ethernet segment to a PPPoE segment the Ethernet segment times out or goes down. Doing a tcpdump I get this message "RTR1gated[1806]: if_rtdown: down route for interface fxp0 192.168.6.4/255.255.255". Does anyone know how to fix this problem? I'm assuming it has something to do with NBMA, but I'm not sure what to do to fix it. All comments are welcome! I have to use RIP for this! Although it would seem better to use OSPF, I don't think OSPF would work well in the wireless half of the diagram I left out. Plus my boss told me I have to use RIP! rip yes { broadcast ; interface tun0 ripin ripout version 2; # interface fxp0 ripin ripout version 2; } ; (802.3) Ethernet PPPoE (PPP over ethernet) RTR1---------------RTR2-----------------RTR4 /\ /\ | | This link(Ethernet) This router can no drops! longer ping RTR1 once the link drops . Thank You, Andre _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]