Re: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-12-01 Thread Anthony Anderson
I have a question regarding OSPF behavior and the loopback address. Our backbone is running OSPF and we have installed a Cache-Flow server to cache webpages. The cache-flow does not support OSPF so I attempted to redistribute OSPF into RIP. I use a private address for the loopback on all of our

Re: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-12-01 Thread Tony Olzak
t;; "Louie Belt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'CCIE_Lab Groupstudy List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 3:35 PM Subject: Re: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces > If y

Re: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-12-01 Thread Erick B.
If you remove the router ospf configuration and paste it back, OSPF will restart with a new router ID if you have a new high IP address. You can only do this in a test/non-production network environment though. I've done this before in my labs because it is faster then waiting for the router to re

Re: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-12-01 Thread Tony Olzak
ill change. Tony - Original Message - From: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Louie Belt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'CCIE_Lab Groupstudy List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 1:39 AM S

RE: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-12-01 Thread Chuck Larrieu
OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces Yes, a convergence would occur anyway, but if the Router ID changes, a lot more things could go wrong. For example, virtual links are configured using the Router ID. If the router ID changes (like by having a serial inter

Re: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-30 Thread Tony Olzak
k B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "CCIE_Lab Groupstudy List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 11:26 AM Subject: Re: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about l

Re: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-30 Thread Erick B.
ick B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "CCIE_Lab > Groupstudy List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, Novembe

RE: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-30 Thread Louie Belt
: Erick B.; Chuck Larrieu; CCIE_Lab Groupstudy List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces I thought OSPF is suppose to converge whenever you have a change in the route. I.e whenever any interface bounce.. regardless of the OSPF

Re: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-30 Thread Jason
ber 30, 2000 8:04 PM Subject: Re: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces > Chuck and others, > > I've been following this conversation and it is a good > review. > > Without a loopback interface, the OSPF RID (Router ID) > will be the

Re: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-30 Thread Erick B.
Chuck and others, I've been following this conversation and it is a good review. Without a loopback interface, the OSPF RID (Router ID) will be the highest IP address on the router when the OSPF process becomes active. If that interface isn't stable (say the highest IP is on a WAN circuit) then

Re: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-29 Thread Christopher.D.Marshall
ou use - an address from the same > subnet one of the interfaces is on or a seperate address? > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Tony van Ree [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 9:28 PM > To: whitaker; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: quest

Re: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-29 Thread David FAHED
Using addresses associated with loopback interfaces (with ospf) has two advantage : 1) The lo interface is more stable than any physical interface. It is active when a router boots up, and it only fails if the entire router fails. 2) The network administrator usually prefer to use a predictable o

Re: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-29 Thread Peter Van Oene
One or two comments inset. Chuck's Text >>I would venture a guess that the BDR >>would be promoted because even though there is an alternative route to the >>DR loopback, hellos go only to adjacent routers, and the DR is no longer >>adjacent. > >Well, I proved my point. Under this scenario, when

Re: OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-29 Thread Peter Van Oene
As per david's msg, it would seem that I may be entirely mistaken! (like thats a first :) headed back to study :) pete *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 11/29/2000 at 8:58 AM Peter Van Oene wrote: >One or two comments inset. > >Chuck's Text >>>I would venture a guess that the BDR >

OSPF Lab - DR behaviour with loopbacks WAS: RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-29 Thread Chuck Larrieu
Much as I personally rant about cross posting the two lists, I believe this one might be worth examination from all levels. Recall the questions and answers about the purpose of the loopback interface, particularly in OSPF. Among the answers proposed is that the loopback, being always up, provide

RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-28 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
y to adjacent routers, and the DR is no longer >adjacent. > >Any comments? > >Can't answer number 2. As my real world OSPF experience is limited. > >Chuck > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of >whi

Fw: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-28 Thread rejected mail
-Original Message- From: Jason Roysdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 4:25 PM Subject: Re: question about loopback interfaces We generally have a class C range set aside for loopba

Re: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-28 Thread Erick B.
For OSPF, if no loopback address is configured OSPF uses the highest IP address on the router being used. This could be a WAN interface. You may be running OSPF only on your Ethernet interface and not this WAN interface OSPF is using for the router ID. If the WAN interface bounces, it effects OS

Re: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-28 Thread Jason Roysdon
Original Message- > From: Tony van Ree [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 9:28 PM > To: whitaker; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: question about loopback interfaces > > > The notes I have here suggest that using a loopback interface provides a &

RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-28 Thread Duane Morgan
ack, hellos go only to adjacent routers, and the DR is no longer > adjacent. > > Any comments? > > Can't answer number 2. As my real world OSPF experience is limited. > > Chuck > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-28 Thread suaveguru
if I am not wrong for some routing protocols like ospf it needs a always up interface like a loopback interface . Also for BGP peering with a loopback interface makes tcp connection more reliable suaveguru --- whitaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could someone explain the importance of using >

RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-28 Thread Chuck Larrieu
Any comments? Can't answer number 2. As my real world OSPF experience is limited. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of whitaker Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 9:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: question about

RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-27 Thread whitaker
experience. What do most of you use - an address from the same subnet one of the interfaces is on or a seperate address? -Original Message- From: Tony van Ree [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 9:28 PM To: whitaker; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: question abou

RE: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-27 Thread Ehab Mohamad Abdullah
] Subject: question about loopback interfaces Could someone explain the importance of using loopback interfaces? I keep reading that it is important when using routing protocols to use loopback interfaces. A consultant that is writing documentation for me suggested I obtain an entire class C network

Re: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-27 Thread Alexandre Carvalho
Whitaker, The advantage that I see on loopbacks interfaces is that never shutdown, that's why in certain protocols such as OSPF and BGP they are most used.. Alex Carvalho "whitaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Could someone explain the impor

question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-27 Thread whitaker
Could someone explain the importance of using loopback interfaces? I keep reading that it is important when using routing protocols to use loopback interfaces. A consultant that is writing documentation for me suggested I obtain an entire class C network just for loopback addresses. Cisco says

Re: question about loopback interfaces

2000-11-27 Thread Tony van Ree
The notes I have here suggest that using a loopback interface provides a more stable interface than a physical interface. As the loopback interface is up as long as the RAM is working the chances of losing this interface are greatly reduced. Both OSPF and BGP use the highest active IP address