Re: [c-nsp] Solid L2 switch - 2948G or 3548-XL-EN?

2007-06-23 Thread sthaug
> Anything that used ACLs was suspect. The L2 support was very weak. We were > so impressed with the 2948G-L3, we took them out of service, put them in store > until they'd depreciated, and then put them in the bin. I'm not sure I can > think of a configuration that isn't inherently flawed in so

[c-nsp] 10G options for 7600s

2007-06-23 Thread Justin Shore
Greetings, I'm in search or recommendations for 10G linecard options for our 7600s (current chassis have Sup720-3BXL but all new chassis have 3CXLs and old one will be eventually replaced). These ports will be used for backbone links between other 7600 chassis in a MPLS cloud supporting a tri

Re: [c-nsp] Solid L2 switch - 2948G or 3548-XL-EN?

2007-06-23 Thread Neal R
I'll second the negative report on the 2948G-L3. I've ran into one (actually a 2980G-L3) in the field and it managed to create a routing loop using two interfaces *that were both running OSPF*. No, I'm not kidding, I got access to another one later and could reproduce the problem - it was a tot

Re: [c-nsp] advice for L2 switches

2007-06-23 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Sat, Jun 23, 2007, Frank Bulk wrote: > How do people sustain 4 Mbps? I'm no gamer, but that seems a bit on the > high side. P2P and filesharing on a LAN can actually max out provided port bandwidth. One of the LAN parties I went to actually provided gigabit ethernet to a bunch of people (via y

Re: [c-nsp] Solid L2 switch - 2948G or 3548-XL-EN?

2007-06-23 Thread Ian Dickinson
Lamar Owen wrote: > On Saturday 23 June 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>Plenty of bugs. *Especially* if you actually tried to use them for L2. >>The 2948G-L3 is dead, and deservedly so. > > Ok, what sort of bugs have people experienced with these? I say this because > I have three, and if there

Re: [c-nsp] Solid L2 switch - 2948G or 3548-XL-EN?

2007-06-23 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday 23 June 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Plenty of bugs. *Especially* if you actually tried to use them for L2. > The 2948G-L3 is dead, and deservedly so. Ok, what sort of bugs have people experienced with these? I say this because I have three, and if there are configurations that t

Re: [c-nsp] advice for L2 switches

2007-06-23 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007, Frank Bulk wrote: > How do people sustain 4 Mbps? I'm no gamer, but that seems a bit on the > high side. File transfers. -- Mikael Abrahamssonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net http

Re: [c-nsp] Solid L2 switch - 2948G or 3548-XL-EN?

2007-06-23 Thread sthaug
> I was not even aware the 85xx had some 'sibling', but seems to be the case. > Does anyone has a table describing what switches use which NPUs or ASICs > 'off the shelf' or not ? I understand all 65xx PFC/DFCs is EARL (or the > son/grandson of EARL), that was born in-house. Anything in the LAN s

Re: [c-nsp] Solid L2 switch - 2948G or 3548-XL-EN?

2007-06-23 Thread Julio Arruda
Lamar Owen wrote: > On Saturday 23 June 2007, Ian Dickinson wrote: >> [The 2948G-L3] really was meant to be an L3 device - You had to do BVI's to >> put a vlan on multiple ports. The FE ports couldn't do ACLs - You had >> a 'special command' to force traffic to route out of the GE port and back >>

Re: [c-nsp] Solid L2 switch - 2948G or 3548-XL-EN?

2007-06-23 Thread sthaug
> > [The 2948G-L3] really was meant to be an L3 device - You had to do BVI's to > > put a vlan on multiple ports. The FE ports couldn't do ACLs - You had > > a 'special command' to force traffic to route out of the GE port and back > > again to apply ACLs there. > > Right. It was somewhat like

Re: [c-nsp] Solid L2 switch - 2948G or 3548-XL-EN?

2007-06-23 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday 23 June 2007, Ian Dickinson wrote: > [The 2948G-L3] really was meant to be an L3 device - You had to do BVI's to > put a vlan on multiple ports. The FE ports couldn't do ACLs - You had > a 'special command' to force traffic to route out of the GE port and back > again to apply ACLs the

[c-nsp] trunk over isp's private vlan

2007-06-23 Thread Dan
Hello, I need to create a trunk between two of my 3550 switches which are interconnected over my isp's network. I can establish the trunk but I cannot get any ip information across the trunk. I have many other trunks setup but this is the only one I have across someone else's network. Here

Re: [c-nsp] Solid L2 switch - 2948G or 3548-XL-EN?

2007-06-23 Thread Ian Dickinson
Lamar Owen wrote: > On Wednesday 20 June 2007, Gert Doering wrote: > >>On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 10:25:28PM -0400, Jeff Kell wrote: >> >>>Wasn't the 2948G the odd one that could do L3, but only the uplinks? >> >>That was the 2948G-L3, which was EOLed very quickly, and deserved so. > > > I'd be cur

Re: [c-nsp] advice for L2 switches

2007-06-23 Thread Frank Bulk
How do people sustain 4 Mbps? I'm no gamer, but that seems a bit on the high side. Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikael Abrahamsson Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 9:21 AM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] advice f

Re: [c-nsp] advice for L2 switches

2007-06-23 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday 23 June 2007, Sridhar Ayengar wrote: > A pair of Cisco 5513s should get you to the number of ports and do it on > the cheap on the used market. They do have Layer 4 filtering features, > but what I don't know is whether you need the Route Switch Module + IOS > to use them. Either Supe

Re: [c-nsp] Solid L2 switch - 2948G or 3548-XL-EN?

2007-06-23 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday 20 June 2007, Gert Doering wrote: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 10:25:28PM -0400, Jeff Kell wrote: > > Wasn't the 2948G the odd one that could do L3, but only the uplinks? > > That was the 2948G-L3, which was EOLed very quickly, and deserved so. I'd be curious as to why. -- Lamar Owen Ch

Re: [c-nsp] advice for L2 switches

2007-06-23 Thread Jason LeBlanc
I second a pair of used 6500 chassis with used sup1a/msfc(1) and cheap used 6348 blades. Were you near someone who keeps spares you could probably borrow or rent a lot of it, much easier to setup with just 2 chassis than 40 or so smaller switches. I'm betting you could get it all on the gray

Re: [c-nsp] advice for L2 switches

2007-06-23 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007, Jason LeBlanc wrote: > This may be a dumb question, but why not wifi? If its laptops, most > will have the adapter built in, and a few usb adapters on the cheap for > the rest, and a few ethernet ports for those that really need copper. At the 5k people lanparties the aggr

Re: [c-nsp] Graceful way to terminate BGP Session

2007-06-23 Thread Ian Dickinson
Jason Lixfeld wrote: > I can't see how the idea below saves you anything from just shutting > down the session. You still incur a CPU hit when you withdraw all > your routes by no longer receiving them from the upstream, and the > internet still recalculates if you change the local preferenc

Re: [c-nsp] IS-IS Emergency

2007-06-23 Thread Ian Dickinson
Justin Shore wrote: > "ip fast-convergence" isn't an option on our 7600s. Try "fast-flood" instead of "ip fast-convergence" - I believe they are related if not identical. Other optimisations/tweaks that you may find worth investigating are 'ispf', 'ip route priority high tag' and 'external overlo

Re: [c-nsp] advice for L2 switches

2007-06-23 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Kevin Blackham wrote: > We're promoting a one day event that requires around 500 FE access ports. I > need to filter at layer 4 (block DHCP serving) and perform some QoS duties Sounds like a classical lan-party setup. I've done this but with 4500 ports. People do this with

Re: [c-nsp] advice for L2 switches

2007-06-23 Thread kevin gannon
In the past when I have had events like this depending on the profile Cisco certainly provided demo kit. Maybe talk to the local account team they can usually get you demo kit for ~30 days loan. Regards Kevin On 6/23/07, Sridhar Ayengar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kevin Blackham wrote: > > Did