[c-nsp] Multicast distribution over backbone

2010-12-01 Thread Robert Hass
Hi I have 6 routers in 6 cities interconnected by 1Gbps links from third party providers (just 1 VLAN over xconnects, no QinQ, MTU=1500). Each city is connected to main node. I have to distribute multicast streams (around 100 channels of IPTV) from source 1 city to 5 others over these 1Gbps

[c-nsp] SVI interface - multicast traffic

2010-12-01 Thread Dean Belev
Hi all, The entire picture includes trunk port with 2 unicast and 1 multicast VLANs and the goal is to do a traffic policing to the multicast one. I can not perform per port - per vlan policing so I created SVI interface, configured the trunk port as mls qos vlan-based and expected that

Re: [c-nsp] Multicast distribution over backbone

2010-12-01 Thread Phil Mayers
On 01/12/10 11:54, Robert Hass wrote: Hi I have 6 routers in 6 cities interconnected by 1Gbps links from third party providers (just 1 VLAN over xconnects, no QinQ, MTU=1500). Each city is connected to main node. I have to distribute multicast streams (around 100 channels of IPTV) from source

Re: [c-nsp] Multicast distribution over backbone

2010-12-01 Thread Tomas Daniska
-Original Message- How do this best ? Use mBGP ? Use MSDP ? Configure just PIM-SM on backbone interfaces ? Or maybe some hybrid solution ? You just need PIM-SM. Designate one router as the RP. Configure PIM-SM each router. Configure them all with the same RP. You only

Re: [c-nsp] Multicast distribution over backbone

2010-12-01 Thread Phil Mayers
On 01/12/10 13:36, Tomas Daniska wrote: -Original Message- How do this best ? Use mBGP ? Use MSDP ? Configure just PIM-SM on backbone interfaces ? Or maybe some hybrid solution ? You just need PIM-SM. Designate one router as the RP. Configure PIM-SM each router. Configure them all

Re: [c-nsp] Multicast distribution over backbone

2010-12-01 Thread Alexander Clouter
Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: I have 6 routers in 6 cities interconnected by 1Gbps links from third party providers (just 1 VLAN over xconnects, no QinQ, MTU=1500). Each city is connected to main node. I have to distribute multicast streams (around 100 channels of IPTV) from

Re: [c-nsp] Multicast distribution over backbone

2010-12-01 Thread Phil Mayers
On 01/12/10 13:31, Alexander Clouter wrote: Designate one router as the RP. Configure PIM-SM each router. Configure them all with the same RP. You only need MSDP to pass source info between PIM-SM RPs. All our core routers are RPs with the same 'anycasted' address so we have resilence. We

Re: [c-nsp] Multicast distribution over backbone

2010-12-01 Thread Alexander Clouter
Tomas Daniska tomas.dani...@soitron.com wrote: You just need PIM-SM. Designate one router as the RP. Configure PIM-SM each router. Configure them all with the same RP. You only need MSDP to pass source info between PIM-SM RPs. You only need BGP multicast AF if you want to use a

[c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600

2010-12-01 Thread Andris Zariņš
Hi folks, Would You consider an ASR 9K as a reasonable (money and tech-wise) upgrade to Cat7600? I understand that ASR9K scales way better than c7600, and there should be lots of other reasons why ASR9K would be more appropriate for SP core network... but I just can not gather enough arguments

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600

2010-12-01 Thread Mack McBride
The 9K is an evolution of the 7600. The biggest differences are the newer DFC components and the XR code. The down side is the 9K is relatively new so there may be more bugs. And there are always plenty of bugs. Mack -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net

Re: [c-nsp] packet loss when servers are brought online

2010-12-01 Thread Christopher Hobbs
You mention you're using iSCSI. What utilisation rates are you hitting? The 3750 has pretty small per-port buffers, so if you are contending one or more ports, you could be getting packet loss due to that. e.g. you boot a machine, it hits a disk very hard over iSCSI, causing contention and packet

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600

2010-12-01 Thread raymondh (NSP)
I believe the greatest difference which _may_ or will happen will be its roadmap on the 100G cards ? I doubt it'll be happening on a 1:1 basis on the 7600, you may want to verify with your Cisco account rep. Nothing is bug free, which includes printing hello world. look at the brighter side,

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600

2010-12-01 Thread Mack McBride
The faster backplane is a long term advantage. The current advantages are pretty minimal. There really isn't a good business case to upgrade at the moment. Mack -Original Message- From: raymondh (NSP) [mailto:raymondh@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:21 AM To: Mack

Re: [c-nsp] Books To learn about DSL Technology

2010-12-01 Thread Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/30/2010 09:02 AM, Jatin wrote: Hi All Can some one please suggest me a good book to study about the DSL Technology. Out of print and a little outdated for cutting-edge stuff, but X-DSL Architecture by Padmanand Warrier is an excellent book

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600

2010-12-01 Thread Andris Zariņš
So far I've received several ideas: - Go for Juniper's MX series. Technicaly - yes, MXes are good, politicaly - no, I'd like to stick with Cisco and evaluate ASR9K pros/cons; - Go for Nexus 7K. Politicaly - yes, technicaly - no no no, as Nexus series are excellent for DC deployments but

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600

2010-12-01 Thread Chris Evans
Andris, MX's are decent devices, however I would say that the 9K has on-up'ed Juniper on this.. I have experiences with both platforms and working with them both, the MX is definitely outdated. However their new Trio 3D linecards are bringing the MX back into the new-age a bit. I would agree with

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600

2010-12-01 Thread Pavel Skovajsa
On a lighter note, Not sure why you want to aproach the problem logically and from technology viewpoint, the people you are going to speak to are not going to understand your argumentation anyway :) I suggest you use some slides from this link I found on google

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600

2010-12-01 Thread Dobbins, Roland
there should be lots of other reasons why ASR9K would be more appropriate for SP core network... but I just can not gather enough arguments to initiate an upgrade project so far. ASR9K gives good NetFlow, 7600 doesn't. ASR9K doesn't have weird ACL-construction caveats, 7600 does. ASR9K

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600

2010-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/1/2010 14:12, Dobbins, Roland wrote: there should be lots of other reasons why ASR9K would be more appropriate for SP core network... but I just can not gather enough arguments to initiate an upgrade project so far. ASR9K gives good NetFlow, 7600 doesn't. ASR9K doesn't have

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600

2010-12-01 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Dec 2, 2010, at 5:48 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: Basically, ASR is a next generation evolution that fixes long-standing things like this. I understand why that would appear to be the case, but the reality is that ASR9K and 7600 have absolutely nothing in common, from OS to ASICs to

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600

2010-12-01 Thread Chris Evans
Asr is a router from the start. 7600 was a switch from the start. Totally different approaches. On Dec 1, 2010 5:52 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 12/1/2010 14:12, Dobbins, Roland wrote: there should be lots of other reasons why ASR9K would be more appropriate for SP core

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600

2010-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/1/2010 14:55, Dobbins, Roland wrote: On Dec 2, 2010, at 5:48 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: Basically, ASR is a next generation evolution that fixes long-standing things like this. I understand why that would appear to be the case, but the reality is that ASR9K and 7600 have

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600

2010-12-01 Thread Nick Hilliard
ASR9K gives good NetFlow, 7600 doesn't. mostly - it's getting there (e.g. doesn't support destination based netflow for ipv4, or either peer-as or destination AS records for v6) But it doesn't have the awful limitations of the sup720 in this regard. ASR9K doesn't have weird

[c-nsp] q on Cisco 3745 pricing

2010-12-01 Thread Patrick Giagnocavo
Just a quick question: Why are the 3745's so inexpensive? I am seeing them go for about $175 base price (128MB RAM/ 64MB flash, 1 power supply) on that auction site and other places. Is there a feature that Cisco is not supporting on them? Do they have high rates of failure that make them

Re: [c-nsp] q on Cisco 3745 pricing

2010-12-01 Thread Aled Morris
On 1 December 2010 23:20, Patrick Giagnocavo patr...@zill.net wrote: Just a quick question: Why are the 3745's so inexpensive? I am seeing them go for about $175 base price (128MB RAM/ 64MB flash, 1 power supply) on that auction site and other places. Is there a feature that Cisco is not

[c-nsp] BFD on PortChannel interface (IOS-XE)

2010-12-01 Thread Pshem Kowalczyk
Hi, I'm trying to figure out if BFD is supported on a PortChannel interface on IOS-XE (3.1.0S) on ASR1006. Configuration is accepted but then the session never comes up: #sh bfd neighbors details NeighAddr LD/RDRH/RS State Int 10.123.223.1

Re: [c-nsp] Books To learn about DSL Technology

2010-12-01 Thread Jatin
Thanks for your response Jason. Thanks Jatin On Wednesday 01 December 2010 10:59 PM, Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/30/2010 09:02 AM, Jatin wrote: Hi All Can some one please suggest me a good book to study about the DSL Technology.

[c-nsp] Monitor traffic on Cisco Routers

2010-12-01 Thread Muhammad Atif Jauhar
Hi I have very basic question. Sorry for this. How I am able to see traffic (source IP, destination IP and port) which is passing from Cisco routers, from specific interface or as a whole. Which is easiest and troubleless way to achieve this. Kindly also guide me with full set of commands to

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR 9K Vs 7600

2010-12-01 Thread Phil Bedard
If you do not need the MLS capabilities of the 7600 such as SVIs, then the ASR9K is a good box. The ASR9K should be able to solve that problem in the future, but a loopback cable is the current solution. :) The routing table capacity isn't huge for both V4/V6 combined but it's adequate until the

Re: [c-nsp] BFD on PortChannel interface (IOS-XE)

2010-12-01 Thread Pshem Kowalczyk
On 2 December 2010 13:57, Pshem Kowalczyk pshe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm trying to figure out if BFD is supported on a PortChannel interface on IOS-XE (3.1.0S) on ASR1006. Configuration is accepted but then the session never comes up: Ok, It got weirder. After forcing a switchover to the