Re: [c-nsp] MPLS down to the CPE

2013-07-06 Thread Mark Tinka
On Saturday, July 06, 2013 11:19:07 PM Pshem Kowalczyk wrote: > There are ways of separating the 'core' MPLS from > 'access' MPLS, with separate IGP domains. Cisco came up > (well not really, but at least they made their devices > compliant) with Unified MPLS > (http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/co

Re: [c-nsp] MPLS down to the CPE

2013-07-06 Thread Pshem Kowalczyk
There are ways of separating the 'core' MPLS from 'access' MPLS, with separate IGP domains. Cisco came up (well not really, but at least they made their devices compliant) with Unified MPLS (http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/optical/ps5726/ps11348/white_paper_c11-656286_ps6557_Products_Whi

Re: [c-nsp] MPLS down to the CPE

2013-07-06 Thread Mark Tinka
On Saturday, July 06, 2013 05:16:28 PM Phil Bedard wrote: > Most of the time these aren't L3 customers it is L2VPN. > Like an instance doing cell backhaul where a customer > wants two circuits which take diverse paths around a > ring. You can do it with G.8032 and different VLANs but > its somewha

Re: [c-nsp] MPLS down to the CPE

2013-07-06 Thread Phil Bedard
Most of the time these aren't L3 customers it is L2VPN. Like an instance doing cell backhaul where a customer wants two circuits which take diverse paths around a ring. You can do it with G.8032 and different VLANs but its somewhat easier using MPLS along with the benefit of the 50ms protection RSV

Re: [c-nsp] MPLS down to the CPE

2013-07-06 Thread Mark Tinka
On Saturday, July 06, 2013 10:58:15 AM Andrew Miehs wrote: > Don't see why adding MPLS would help very much here - > especially considering the security risk! > > What is the difference on input for the customer between > connecting to a PE, or connecting to a CE provided by > yourselves? The mai

Re: [c-nsp] Sup-720 fabric failures

2013-07-06 Thread Robert Williams
Just an update on this for those interested. The original failing supervisor has a blown capacitor on the mainboard (visible when the SP/RP complex is removed). It's obviously still able to do its job in warmer climates, but not when cold. As for the (still failing) replacement, we are due to s

Re: [c-nsp] MPLS down to the CPE

2013-07-06 Thread Andrew Miehs
On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > On Tuesday, March 05, 2013 03:23:43 PM Saku Ytti wrote: > > > Not at all. But adding MPLS to customer would increase > > our exposure. > > At $previous_job, this was a serious consideration, mostly > because the customers were starting to pressu