Re: [c-nsp] ASR 1k vs 9k as a non-transit BGP router with full tables?

2017-08-03 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
Mark, > On 3 Aug 2017, at 10:39, Mark Tinka wrote: >> ‘HX’ versions are current-gen, newest boxes, that can use >> RP3 and up to 64GB of RAM. For fixed options there are 1001HX and 1002HX >> as of now and they scale up to 16GB of physical RAM (1001HX) >> and 32GB of

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 1k vs 9k as a non-transit BGP router with full tables?

2017-08-03 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi, > Am 03.08.2017 um 23:58 schrieb Łukasz Bromirski : > For that kind of scenario, Sup720-10GE can still do it’s job if > You use Selective Route Download. You don’t need full tables as > Spotify’s SIR project have shown. You’re even better than Spotify, > as You’re end

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 1k vs 9k as a non-transit BGP router with full tables?

2017-08-03 Thread Bill Woodcock
>> On 3 Aug 2017, at 09:10, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: >> >> The use case is simply "full tables BGP" with currently 4x 1GB/s >> uplinks and possibly 6 in the near future. Upgrade to something >> 10G-ish not planned at the moment. 300-400 Mbit/s aggregate >> traffic across all

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 1k vs 9k as a non-transit BGP router with full tables?

2017-08-03 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
> On 3 Aug 2017, at 09:10, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > > The use case is simply "full tables BGP" with currently 4x 1GB/s > uplinks and possibly 6 in the near future. Upgrade to something > 10G-ish not planned at the moment. 300-400 Mbit/s aggregate > traffic across all uplinks

Re: [c-nsp] nfSen / nfDump

2017-08-03 Thread Aaron Gould
We run Nfsen 1.3.6 - Aaron -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Nick Cutting Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 4:00 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] nfSen / nfDump Slightly off topic, however related to the solarwinds

Re: [c-nsp] nfSen / nfDump

2017-08-03 Thread Aaron Gould
I do 1/512 sample rate on my asr9k's and usually multiple numbers gathered in nfsen by 512 to normalize -Aaron -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Cole Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 6:17 PM To: Nick Cutting

Re: [c-nsp] Setting relay agent IP on 4500

2017-08-03 Thread Jason Lixfeld
> On Jul 31, 2017, at 12:17 PM, Phil Mayers wrote: > > I guess you could use a dummy relay that added a fake RFC3527 option but > yuck... What do you mean by this, exactly? Relay to a relay? Didn’t think that was possible because a relay only accepts broadcasts…

Re: [c-nsp] LibreNMS (was: Re: OT Solarwinds Alternatives)

2017-08-03 Thread Neil Lathwood
> > I was wondering if anyone here already is running LibreNMS in such an > environment and maybe we can gather some common configuration ideas > or even alerting templates and rules somewhere on github? > > I'd be happy to set up a repository if there are folks willing to > share. As of now I

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 1k vs 9k as a non-transit BGP router with full tables?

2017-08-03 Thread Tim Densmore
On 8/3/2017 1:10 AM, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > The 9001 would probably cost us 3 to 4 times as much per > box as the 1001-X. Yeah, this is definitely a piece of the puzzle for some of us. So, discussion about the differences between the various RPs aside, what's the real world experience with

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 1k vs 9k as a non-transit BGP router with full tables?

2017-08-03 Thread James Jun
On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 08:58:48AM +0100, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > Again, MX104 is/was competing with ASR903 or ASR902. > Seems line everyone forgot about the ASR903? Such a good work horse. > FWIW, we tried rolling out ASR903 w/ RSP3 and it ended up being a total complete

[c-nsp] LibreNMS (was: Re: OT Solarwinds Alternatives)

2017-08-03 Thread Maximilian Wilhelm
Anno domini 2017 Nick Griffin scripsit: Hi, > Sorry for the off-topic post. I'm looking for input on network management > solutions other than solarwinds, unbiased opinions. We will need all things > network related, monitoring, alerts, reporting, configuration management, > and other tools that

[c-nsp] WebEx Offloading

2017-08-03 Thread Alex K.
Hello everyone, Is there any known method for offloading on premise WebEx traffic from WAN circuits? Let us assume we're dealing with one to many WebEx video stream. Let us also assume, we have 1000 attendees for that stream in one branch. Is the genius of Cisco leads to the WAN circuit for that

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 1k vs 9k as a non-transit BGP router with full tables?

2017-08-03 Thread Mark Tinka
On 3/Aug/17 09:58, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > Again, MX104 is/was competing with ASR903 or ASR902. Could have been, but it also finds itself competing with the ASR1000. Juniper just don't have anything else in their arsenal at the moment, for this range of kit. > Seems line

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 1k vs 9k as a non-transit BGP router with full tables?

2017-08-03 Thread Mark Tinka
On 3/Aug/17 08:40, Łukasz Bromirski wrote: > Couple clarifications. Many thanks, Lukasz! > > ‘HX’ versions are current-gen, newest boxes, that can use > RP3 and up to 64GB of RAM. For fixed options there are 1001HX and 1002HX > as of now and they scale up to 16GB of physical RAM (1001HX) >

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 1k vs 9k as a non-transit BGP router with full tables?

2017-08-03 Thread adamv0025
> Mark Tinka > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 12:44 PM > > Juniper have no choice but to keep the MX80 and MX104 as an ASR1000 > competitor. None of the M-series boxes are ideal for that. If they don't > revamp this particular line, Cisco will continue to overtake them in that area. > Again,

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 1k vs 9k as a non-transit BGP router with full tables?

2017-08-03 Thread adamv0025
> Saku Ytti > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 12:32 PM > > MX104 is 1GE optimised SP router, there is no such device available or in the > pipeline from JNPR, CSCO, NOK . > What about ASR903? They even look like twins :) Sure with RSP3 ASR903 moved into the 100GE game but the old ones -same

Re: [c-nsp] OT Solarwinds Alternatives

2017-08-03 Thread James Bensley
On 27 July 2017 at 19:56, Nick Griffin wrote: > Sorry for the off-topic post. I'm looking for input on network management > solutions other than solarwinds, unbiased opinions. We will need all things > network related, monitoring, alerts, reporting, configuration

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 1k vs 9k as a non-transit BGP router with full tables?

2017-08-03 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi! > As for comparisions - 1001/1002/1002F are no longer in game, > and while they perform decently for control plane, even first gen ASR 9k’s > (like 9001/9001S and RP1s for 9006/9010) will beat them unless you > go for RR role in a specific config (SRD) - as Ytti mentioned, BGP on > 32 bit