Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR1000 Info..

2019-10-31 Thread Mark Tinka
On 31/Oct/19 21:13, Howard Leadmon wrote: >   > >  I also mentioned looking at Juniper on their list, and man did many > come back telling me that JunOS could be a nightmare with commands > changing from release to release, and that if I wasn't used to JunOS > already (which I am not) that it

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 4000 series (4461) as a BGP router?

2019-10-31 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
Patrick, > On 28 Oct 2019, at 09:30, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > > Hi all, > >> Am 27.10.2019 um 01:36 schrieb Łukasz Bromirski : >> >>> On 23 Oct 2019, at 13:50, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> would you recommend the 4461 to run a handful of >>> full feeds for v4 and v6?

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR1000 Info..

2019-10-31 Thread Howard Leadmon
On 10/31/2019 2:04 PM, Gert Doering wrote: Hi, Actually I'm amazed at all the newfangled gear which promises to do everything and then fails at essentials that *my 6500s* have been doing well from day 1...  I have really loved my  65xx's and 7600's that I have had, and my 7606 is running to

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR1000 Info..

2019-10-31 Thread Howard Leadmon
On 10/31/2019 12:39 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: If I'm honest, the ASR1000 is not a platform I'd spend money on, going forward. Especially if you are not looking to run any non-Ethernet line cards. Focus on the MX and ASR9000, I'd say. Mark.   Understood, and if my poor 7606 wasn't running out of

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 4000 series (4461) as a BGP router?

2019-10-31 Thread Ivan Walker
Lukasz, > That’s true of course. 9901 would be better entry-level choice with > years in front of it. I find that the 9901 being entry level is quite high. There is the 120Gbps license but the device itself is quite heavy and large and the power consumption more than the 9001. I think the

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR1000 Info..

2019-10-31 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 06:39:32PM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote: > On 31/Oct/19 15:20, Howard Leadmon wrote: > >  OK, maybe I am just losing my mind, but the more I look at > > information on the ASR's the more confusing it gets, what happened to > > the good old 6500/7600 days.. > > Oh gosh, now

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco ASR1000 Info..

2019-10-31 Thread Mark Tinka
On 31/Oct/19 15:20, Howard Leadmon wrote: > >  OK, maybe I am just losing my mind, but the more I look at > information on the ASR's the more confusing it gets, what happened to > the good old 6500/7600 days.. Oh gosh, now you're going to set Gert off. He has been a happy camper these past few

Re: [c-nsp] Granularity for BFD in CoPP policy

2019-10-31 Thread Nathan Lannine
If "echo" is used, I think you might need something like the following, replicating the ACEs exactly on each side. // permit udp eq 3784 permit udp eq 3785 permit udp eq 3784 permit udp eq 3785 permit udp eq 3784 permit udp eq 3785 permit udp eq 3784 permit udp eq 3785 // On

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 4000 series (4461) as a BGP router?

2019-10-31 Thread Mark Tinka
On 31/Oct/19 17:05, Tom Hill wrote: > > > Notably I was buying <10 devices. My buying power was invariably a lot > lower than that of many others at the time. Even then. We started off with Arista buying 4x core switches. We've since upped that to a much larger order in recent years.

[c-nsp] Granularity for BFD in CoPP policy

2019-10-31 Thread Drew Weaver
Howdy! I have noticed that if I put: permit udp any any eq 3784 permit udp any any eq 3785 Into a CoPP policy, this makes BFD function between two systems. If I try to get specific and use the source and destination addresses of the two systems BFD flaps wildly. I would assume, most likely

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 4000 series (4461) as a BGP router?

2019-10-31 Thread Tom Hill
On 31/10/2019 11:40, Mark Tinka wrote: > Might have been a case of the times. We don't see this as an issue today. Notably I was buying <10 devices. My buying power was invariably a lot lower than that of many others at the time. -- Tom ___ cisco-nsp

[c-nsp] Cisco ASR1000 Info..

2019-10-31 Thread Howard Leadmon
 OK, maybe I am just losing my mind, but the more I look at information on the ASR's the more confusing it gets, what happened to the good old 6500/7600 days..  We are a small shop, but have multiple transit points as well as peerings at Equinix, so need a router that will happily talk BGP

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 4000 series (4461) as a BGP router?

2019-10-31 Thread Mark Tinka
On 31/Oct/19 13:30, Tom Hill wrote: > > When I last looked at this, several years ago, the cost of support for > the Juniper MX (in this case, MX480) was ridiculous next to the cost of > the hardware. It amounted to paying a lunatic amount for the hardware, > but with a deposit and three

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 4000 series (4461) as a BGP router?

2019-10-31 Thread Saku Ytti
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 at 13:31, Tom Hill wrote: > When I last looked at this, several years ago, the cost of support for > the Juniper MX (in this case, MX480) was ridiculous next to the cost of > the hardware. It amounted to paying a lunatic amount for the hardware, > but with a deposit and three

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 4000 series (4461) as a BGP router?

2019-10-31 Thread Tom Hill
On 29/10/2019 11:41, Saku Ytti wrote: > I hear a lot of people buying MX204 for 15k and less, when they buy a > single unit, unsure if loss leader to get people to try JNPR. When I last looked at this, several years ago, the cost of support for the Juniper MX (in this case, MX480) was ridiculous