Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Jan/20 16:57, Tom Hill wrote: > To some extent, I would agree. Though I do not agree entirely. > > At a certain level of "one size fits all", you reach a point where no, > actually that box isn't suitable for every function. Either it's > designed for a different use-case, or the bill of

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Jan/20 16:52, Brian Turnbow wrote: > You neglected to mention that they also mostly provide feature parity across > the platforms that use that silicon > So box a and box b will do the sames things in the same way, with the same > commands. > So no we at business unit service provider

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-10 Thread Tom Hill
On 09/01/2020 18:19, Gert Doering wrote: > Cisco has a zillion products that mainly differenciate in "which of > the advertised features are unusable or broken" and "what operating > system do we use this week?". > > Ditching out half the products and using the engineering capacity > freed by

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-10 Thread Brian Turnbow via cisco-nsp
--- Begin Message --- Hi, > Broadcom levels the playing field amongst traditional and new vendors. > If Cisco and Juniper have the same access to Broadcom chips as do newer > market entrants such as Arista and Arrcus, what are we really paying the > traditional, expensive vendors for when

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-10 Thread Brian Turnbow via cisco-nsp
--- Begin Message --- Hi, > > I do have *null* understanding for "we have cisco proprietary protocols that > our customers are actively using (HSRP, EIGRP) but we do not support this on > because we can, buy something else!" (EIGRP on IOS XR > on NCS5k, HSRPv2 with IPv6 on ASR920). >

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Jan/20 13:09, Sigurbjörn Birkir Lárusson wrote: > > > Additionally The NCS line, both the DC and SP products, are based on Broadcom > chipsets which are heavily limited in their capabilities, particularly egress > TCAM capabilities are limited in such a way that it makes it almost

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-10 Thread Sigurbjörn Birkir Lárusson
On 9/Jan/20 20:19, Gert Doering wrote: >> Cisco has a zillion products that mainly differenciate in "which of >> the advertised features are unusable or broken" and "what operating >> system do we use this week?". >> >> Ditching out half the products and using the

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/Jan/20 20:19, Gert Doering wrote: > Cisco has a zillion products that mainly differenciate in "which of > the advertised features are unusable or broken" and "what operating > system do we use this week?". > > Ditching out half the products and using the engineering capacity > freed by