Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-07-02 Thread Bryan Holloway
On 6/27/19 2:40 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: On 27/Jun/19 21:22, Aaron Gould wrote: Why are we worried about XR boot times ? RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:g-9k#sh ver | in "uptime|IOS" Thu Jun 27 14:20:49.013 CDT Cisco IOS XR Software, Version 4.1.2[Default] g-9k uptime is 5 years, 14 weeks, 3 days, 12 hours, 1

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-28 Thread James Jun
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 12:31:54PM +0100, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > I'd expect the boot(and install) of GISO from USB to be fairly quick. > > adam I don't know about USB boot but installing GISO on live router (.iso copied over to RP, then install update command used) is about 1 hour

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-28 Thread adamv0025
> Mark Tinka > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:41 PM > > > > On 27/Jun/19 21:22, Aaron Gould wrote: > > > Why are we worried about XR boot times ? > > > > RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:g-9k#sh ver | in "uptime|IOS" > > Thu Jun 27 14:20:49.013 CDT > > Cisco IOS XR Software, Version 4.1.2[Default] g-9k uptime

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-27 Thread Alexandre Guimaraes
"Det är vad det är" 'It is what it is"? A Em 27/06/2019 16:41, "cisco-nsp em nome de Mark Tinka" escreveu: On 27/Jun/19 21:22, Aaron Gould wrote: > Why are we worried about XR boot times ? > > RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:g-9k#sh ver | in "uptime|IOS" > Thu Jun 27 14:

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-27 Thread Mark Tinka
On 27/Jun/19 21:22, Aaron Gould wrote: > Why are we worried about XR boot times ? > > RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:g-9k#sh ver | in "uptime|IOS" > Thu Jun 27 14:20:49.013 CDT > Cisco IOS XR Software, Version 4.1.2[Default] > g-9k uptime is 5 years, 14 weeks, 3 days, 12 hours, 10 minutes > > RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:c-9

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-27 Thread Aaron Gould
Why are we worried about XR boot times ? RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:g-9k#sh ver | in "uptime|IOS" Thu Jun 27 14:20:49.013 CDT Cisco IOS XR Software, Version 4.1.2[Default] g-9k uptime is 5 years, 14 weeks, 3 days, 12 hours, 10 minutes RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:c-9k#sh ver | in "uptime|IOS" Thu Jun 27 14:20:55.287 CDT C

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-27 Thread Phil Bedard
The NCS540 line is definitely edge focused although the initial hardware release probably fits more in an aggregation role for most. There are differences in feature or scale but I wouldn't say it's less feature rich, in many cases it has more capabilities. Thanks, Phil On 6/27/19, 1:21

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-27 Thread Nick Cutting
Don't forget the PHD in rocket surgery required for smartnet -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp On Behalf Of Gert Doering Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 12:05 PM To: ??ukasz Bromirski Cc: Gert Doering ; Cisco-nsp (cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net) Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replac

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-27 Thread Eric Van Tol
>There are currently no such plans, but the natural current replacement would >be NCS 540 (IOS-XR box) and NCS 560 (XR box as well, more alike >ASR 903/907 if you need modularity). I was told that there are currently no plans to EoL the ASR920. The NCS, while somewhat similar, is not quite as "fe

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-27 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 06:29:41PM +0200, Brian Turnbow wrote: > Let's make a smu to disable smart licensing as a fix. Now that is nice :-) IOS XR FTW. (I still do not understand why more recent XR platforms can't have EIGRP, though... we have nicely and willingly moved ourselves into vendo

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-27 Thread Brian Turnbow via cisco-nsp
--- Begin Message --- > The table on software licensing looks like the usual Cisco nightmare, just more > of it. > > ESS-AC-10G-RTU-1 Essentials SW Right-to-Use per 10G > ADV-AC-10G-RTU-1 Advanced SW Right-to-Use per 10G > ESS-10G-SIA-3 Essentials SW Innovation Access per 10G 3 year subscription >

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-27 Thread Laurent Dumont
A 920 taking 13 minutes too boot is quite a thing to see. Especially a dual reboot for a software upgrade 😚 On Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 12:04 PM Gert Doering wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 06:02:15PM +0200, ??ukasz Bromirski wrote: > > > The table on software licensing looks like the usual C

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-27 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 06:02:15PM +0200, ??ukasz Bromirski wrote: > > The table on software licensing looks like the usual Cisco nightmare, > > just more of it. > > Oh c???mon, what would happen if we???d nail down *both* product and > licensing? Hell would freeze ;) *sigh*. Well said. (A

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-27 Thread Mark Tinka
On 27/Jun/19 17:59, Łukasz Bromirski wrote: > :D “Good old days of solid iron with QNX-running XR”. > > NCS 540 boots in ~90 seconds depending on the complexity of the > configuration. I just did reboot one to check if I’m right. And a full software upgrade? Mark. __

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-27 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
Gert, > On 27 Jun 2019, at 18:00, Gert Doering wrote: > > Hi, > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 05:49:42PM +0200, ??ukasz Bromirski wrote: >> There are currently no such plans, but the natural current replacement would >> be NCS 540 (IOS-XR box) and NCS 560 (XR box as well, more alike >> ASR 903/907

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-27 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 05:49:42PM +0200, ??ukasz Bromirski wrote: > There are currently no such plans, but the natural current replacement would > be NCS 540 (IOS-XR box) and NCS 560 (XR box as well, more alike > ASR 903/907 if you need modularity). The boxes look very nice. The table on so

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-27 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
> On 27 Jun 2019, at 17:53, Mark Tinka wrote: > > On 27/Jun/19 17:49, Łukasz Bromirski wrote: > >> >> >> Putting my Cisco hat for a moment: >> >> There are currently no such plans, but the natural current replacement >> would >> be NCS 540 (IOS-XR box) and NCS 560 (XR box as well, more alike

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-27 Thread Mark Tinka
On 27/Jun/19 17:49, Łukasz Bromirski wrote: > > > Putting my Cisco hat for a moment: > > There are currently no such plans, but the natural current replacement > would > be NCS 540 (IOS-XR box) and NCS 560 (XR box as well, more alike > ASR 903/907 if you need modularity). I don't know why for a

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-27 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
> On 27 Jun 2019, at 10:15, Mark Tinka wrote: > > On 27/Jun/19 01:46, Laurent Dumont wrote: >> Overall, it looks like specific IOS versions are being eol-ed. > > That is common, and expected. > >> Has anyone seen any indication that the hardware platform itself would >> be phased out? > > No

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-27 Thread Mark Tinka
On 27/Jun/19 01:46, Laurent Dumont wrote: > Overall, it looks like specific IOS versions are being eol-ed. That is common, and expected. > Has anyone seen any indication that the hardware platform itself would > be phased out? Nope. Mark. ___ cisco

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-26 Thread Patrick Cole
Jason, It was an internally raised bug, so you probably won't find any mention of it anywhere on any release notes. Classic case of the "fix it before someone notices" : CSCvb80108 - "On disposition VPLS traffic getting dropped and disposition label info is not present on hw" Fixed code rele

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-26 Thread Jason Lixfeld
Can you share the details of the VPLS bug? BugID? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Patrick Cole wrote: > > Laurent, > > The HW platform isn't, but the older SW (3.16/3.18) are EOL'd, I was advised > by the TAC. > > With good reason too - We hit a bad VPLS bug in them tha

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-26 Thread Muhammad Asif Rao
Thank you, yes its only code, not the hw. On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 20:15 Patrick Cole wrote: > Laurent, > > The HW platform isn't, but the older SW (3.16/3.18) are EOL'd, I was > advised by the TAC. > > With good reason too - We hit a bad VPLS bug in them that was fixed only > in everest and beyon

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-26 Thread Patrick Cole
Laurent, The HW platform isn't, but the older SW (3.16/3.18) are EOL'd, I was advised by the TAC. With good reason too - We hit a bad VPLS bug in them that was fixed only in everest and beyond with no plans to backport. As such our fleet are now running 16.6 and we've been good on that. Pa

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-26 Thread Laurent Dumont
Overall, it looks like specific IOS versions are being eol-ed. Has anyone seen any indication that the hardware platform itself would be phased out? On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 7:10 PM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 27/Jun/19 00:33, Shawn L wrote: > > I haven’t seen a roadmap where the hardware has been d

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-26 Thread Mark Tinka
On 27/Jun/19 00:33, Shawn L wrote: > I haven’t seen a roadmap where the hardware has been discontinued. Just > put in a grant application to use a bunch of the new 12x 10 gig models and > none of our research nor talking to Cisco directly showed any EOL any time > soon The ASR920 is still prese

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-26 Thread Shawn L
I haven’t seen a roadmap where the hardware has been discontinued. Just put in a grant application to use a bunch of the new 12x 10 gig models and none of our research nor talking to Cisco directly showed any EOL any time soon On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 6:17 PM Igor Sukhomlinov wrote: > NCS5xx mi

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-26 Thread Igor Sukhomlinov
NCS5xx might be an option for you. Had a look on these guys in the lab recently - not so bad. Some minor issues with the SW still exist since it is a new platform, but I would buy that thing if the budget allows. Rgds, Igor чт, 27 июн. 2019 г., 6:19 Mark Tinka : > > > On 26/Jun/19 15:58, Muhamma

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-26 Thread Mark Tinka
On 26/Jun/19 15:58, Muhammad Asif Rao wrote: > Hi, > Going through ASR 920 and look like EOL announced already. What is the best > replacement capable of handling 10g aggregation. So far this been best > option for considering value for $$ spent. MX204. Mark. __

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-26 Thread Brian Turnbow via cisco-nsp
ao > Sent: mercoledì 26 giugno 2019 17:42 > To: Gert Doering > Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement > > We are using features like BGP, EIGRP, ACLs and net flow. > > Routes are 2k and ACL is about max 500 entries. > > On Wed, Jun 26, 20

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-26 Thread Muhammad Asif Rao
Also we using 4x10g ports. On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 11:41 Muhammad Asif Rao wrote: > We are using features like BGP, EIGRP, ACLs and net flow. > > Routes are 2k and ACL is about max 500 entries. > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 10:08 Gert Doering wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 09:58:14AM -

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-26 Thread Muhammad Asif Rao
We are using features like BGP, EIGRP, ACLs and net flow. Routes are 2k and ACL is about max 500 entries. On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 10:08 Gert Doering wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 09:58:14AM -0400, Muhammad Asif Rao wrote: > > Going through ASR 920 and look like EOL announced already. W

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-26 Thread Peelman, Nick via cisco-nsp
--- Begin Message --- the NCS line seems to be the next hardware evolution of the ASR900/920 line, with models that correlate to just about everything in the 900 portfolio, as well as next gen devices like the 540 that offer a lot more 10Gb+ density. seems a lot like what they are doing with the

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-26 Thread Spyros Kakaroukas
Hi, Haven't looked at prices yet but, IIRC , the product Cisco is pushing as a replacement is the ncs 540 . On 26 Jun 2019 16:58, Muhammad Asif Rao wrote: Hi, Going through ASR 920 and look like EOL announced already. What is the best replacement capable of handling 10g aggregation. So far thi

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-26 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 09:58:14AM -0400, Muhammad Asif Rao wrote: > Going through ASR 920 and look like EOL announced already. What is the best > replacement capable of handling 10g aggregation. So far this been best > option for considering value for $$ spent. What is it that you want to do

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-26 Thread Lukas Tribus
Hello, On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 15:59, Muhammad Asif Rao wrote: > > Hi, > Going through ASR 920 and look like EOL announced already. I don't see any EOL announcement for the ASR920 (other then software). Can you clarify what you mean and link to that EOL announcement please? cheers, lukas

[c-nsp] ASR 920 Replacement

2019-06-26 Thread Muhammad Asif Rao
Hi, Going through ASR 920 and look like EOL announced already. What is the best replacement capable of handling 10g aggregation. So far this been best option for considering value for $$ spent. Regards, Asif ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.net