Re: [c-nsp] Are multicast MAC addresses allowed in the source field?

2010-11-15 Thread Benny Amorsen
man, 15 11 2010 kl. 10:29 +, skrev Tomas Daniska: it's not only ARP reply that takes into account when talking operability of such solutions. At one particular case, we had been hit hard with this clustering method. Over the time, everything worked as the old switches were slightly lax

Re: [c-nsp] Are multicast MAC addresses allowed in the source field?

2010-11-15 Thread Tomas Daniska
Neiberger Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Are multicast MAC addresses allowed in the source field? John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com writes: We have an application involving a firewall cluster where the cluster has a VIP associated with it, but the VIP apparently replies

Re: [c-nsp] Are multicast MAC addresses allowed in the source field?

2010-11-15 Thread Tomas Daniska
-Original Message- From: Benny Amorsen [mailto:benny+use...@amorsen.dk] Microsoft were by far not the first to do this, and I still believe that it is a brilliant solution to a difficult problem, even though we do not use it. Maybe, still changes nothing on the fact that if they

Re: [c-nsp] Are multicast MAC addresses allowed in the source field?

2010-11-15 Thread Tomas Daniska
-Original Message- From: Benny Amorsen [mailto:benny+use...@amorsen.dk] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 1:30 PM If you have the switches do the duplication, you save having to buy a dedicated duplication appliance (load balancer) which itself can be a correct me if I'm wrong - but

Re: [c-nsp] Are multicast MAC addresses allowed in the source field?

2010-10-18 Thread Ingen Schenau, Jeroen van (ICTS)
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 14:42 -0600, John Neiberger wrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:17 PM, christopher.mar...@usc-bt.com wrote: The I/G bit must be cleared in the source address of an Ethernet frame. Ref: IEEE 802.3-2002, Section 3.2.3(b) I'm finding out more about what this firewall

Re: [c-nsp] Are multicast MAC addresses allowed in the source field?

2010-10-18 Thread Benny Amorsen
John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com writes: We have an application involving a firewall cluster where the cluster has a VIP associated with it, but the VIP apparently replies to ARP requests with a multicast MAC address. The idea, ultimately, is that both firewalls in the cluster will receive

Re: [c-nsp] Are multicast MAC addresses allowed in the source field?

2010-10-16 Thread Mack O'Brian
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:43 PM, John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.comwrote: RFC 1812 section 3.3.2 says it shouldn't work: A router MUST not believe any ARP reply that claims that the Link Layer address of another host or router is a broadcast or multicast address. Yep, this

Re: [c-nsp] Are multicast MAC addresses allowed in the source field?

2010-10-15 Thread Christopher.Marget
The I/G bit must be cleared in the source address of an Ethernet frame. Ref: IEEE 802.3-2002, Section 3.2.3(b) ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at

Re: [c-nsp] Are multicast MAC addresses allowed in the source field?

2010-10-15 Thread John Neiberger
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:17 PM, christopher.mar...@usc-bt.com wrote: The I/G bit must be cleared in the source address of an Ethernet frame. Ref: IEEE 802.3-2002, Section 3.2.3(b) I'm finding out more about what this firewall vendor is actually trying to do. From what I can gather, it's

Re: [c-nsp] Are multicast MAC addresses allowed in the source field?

2010-10-15 Thread Lee
On 10/15/10, John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com wrote: We have an application involving a firewall cluster where the cluster has a VIP associated with it, but the VIP apparently replies to ARP requests with a multicast MAC address. The idea, ultimately, is that both firewalls in the cluster

Re: [c-nsp] Are multicast MAC addresses allowed in the source field?

2010-10-15 Thread John Neiberger
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Lee ler...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/15/10, John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com wrote: We have an application involving a firewall cluster where the cluster has a VIP associated with it, but the VIP apparently replies to ARP requests with a multicast MAC address.

Re: [c-nsp] Are multicast MAC addresses allowed in the source field?

2010-10-15 Thread Christopher.Marget
jneiber...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Lee ler...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/15/10, John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com wrote: We have an application involving a firewall cluster where the cluster has a VIP associated with it, but the VIP apparently replies to ARP

Re: [c-nsp] Are multicast MAC addresses allowed in the source field?

2010-10-15 Thread Murphy, William
...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 3:42 PM To: christopher.mar...@usc-bt.com Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Are multicast MAC addresses allowed in the source field? On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:17 PM

Re: [c-nsp] Are multicast MAC addresses allowed in the source field?

2010-10-15 Thread John Neiberger
RFC 1812 section 3.3.2 says it shouldn't work:   A router MUST not believe any ARP reply that claims that the Link   Layer address of another host or router is a broadcast or multicast   address. Yep, this is a Checkpoint cluster connected to Cisco switches. Once I discovered the right