Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-12-02 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2008-12-01 14:50 -0500), Julio Arruda wrote: And I understand Nexus is the EARL8, correct ? And this would also mean the 3B, 3C and the XLs are all EARL7, but with distinct sizes for the TCAMs tied to them ? 3C is EARL7.5. -- ++ytti ___

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-12-01 Thread David Freedman
SIP/SPA does indeed provide per-port local VLAN significance for this platform, please prepare your wallet in such case :) Dave. Saku Ytti wrote: On (2008-11-28 18:07 +0200), Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: Just to add (if i remember right) that ES and SRB didn't support local VLAN

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-12-01 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2008-12-01 12:02 +), David Freedman wrote: SIP/SPA does indeed provide per-port local VLAN significance for this platform, please prepare your wallet in such case :) Not 100% sure where this reply was directed, but SIP/SPA has exactly same caveats as ES+, you're still limited to 4k

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-12-01 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2008-11-30 19:28 -0500), Julio Arruda wrote: I was under impression the L3 forwarding and the L2 forwarding was done by the same engine, in the PFC card(s) ? and behind it, the EARL for the lookup and the rewriting of the header info (mac rewrite, dec ttl and goes on) ? Inside

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-12-01 Thread Johannes Resch
On Mon, December 1, 2008 13:02, David Freedman wrote: SIP/SPA does indeed provide per-port local VLAN significance for this platform, please prepare your wallet in such case :) Dave. However, SIP/SPA still consume global (internal) VLAN resources per L3 subif..only the VLAN IDs need not

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-12-01 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2008-12-01 13:20 +0100), Johannes Resch wrote: As others have pointed out, using service instances on ES/ES+ will not require global VLANs, but this only applies for terminating plain PWEs. For L3 subif/VPLS, again a global VLAN/SVI is required. This is not true for ES+, ES+ can have,

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-12-01 Thread Johannes Resch
On Mon, December 1, 2008 14:30, Saku Ytti wrote: On (2008-12-01 13:20 +0100), Johannes Resch wrote: As others have pointed out, using service instances on ES/ES+ will not require global VLANs, but this only applies for terminating plain PWEs. For L3 subif/VPLS, again a global VLAN/SVI is

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-12-01 Thread Ian Cox
Saku Ytti wrote: On (2008-11-30 19:28 -0500), Julio Arruda wrote: I was under impression the L3 forwarding and the L2 forwarding was done by the same engine, in the PFC card(s) ? and behind it, the EARL for the lookup and the rewriting of the header info (mac rewrite, dec ttl and

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-12-01 Thread Ian Cox
Julio Arruda wrote: I was under impression the L3 forwarding and the L2 forwarding was done by the same engine, in the PFC card(s) ? and behind it, the EARL for the lookup and the rewriting of the header info (mac rewrite, dec ttl and goes on) ? PFC/DFC - is the customer facing name for

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-12-01 Thread Julio Arruda
Ian Cox wrote: Julio Arruda wrote: I was under impression the L3 forwarding and the L2 forwarding was done by the same engine, in the PFC card(s) ? and behind it, the EARL for the lookup and the rewriting of the header info (mac rewrite, dec ttl and goes on) ? PFC/DFC - is the customer

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-11-30 Thread Matthew Melbourne
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 07:52:23AM -0800, Mark Tech wrote: Is there anyway around this? I want the 7600 to act like a router, not a switch! In that case, buy a router, not a switch... The upside is that the 7600 can do proper ether channels - so if you just

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-11-30 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 02:23:35PM +, Matthew Melbourne wrote: And yes, this is one of the most serious design limitations of the 6500/7600 - global VLAN space (with LAN interfaces). But it's a well-known and well-documented limitation, so usually people know in advance and can

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-11-30 Thread Julio Arruda
Gert Doering wrote: Hi, On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 02:23:35PM +, Matthew Melbourne wrote: And yes, this is one of the most serious design limitations of the 6500/7600 - global VLAN space (with LAN interfaces). But it's a well-known and well-documented limitation, so usually people know in

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-11-30 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 07:28:48PM -0500, Julio Arruda wrote: I was under impression the L3 forwarding and the L2 forwarding was done by the same engine, in the PFC card(s) ? and behind it, the EARL for the lookup and the rewriting of the header info (mac rewrite, dec ttl and goes on)

[c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-11-28 Thread Mark Tech
Hi With my GSR, I can split traffic on seperate physical interfaces, reusing the same vlan #, i.e. interface GigabitEthernet0/0/6.2  encapsulation dot1Q 2  ip address 7.7.7.1 255.255.255.252  no ip directed-broadcast  no cdp enable ! interface GigabitEthernet0/0/7.2  encapsulation dot1Q 2  ip

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-11-28 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
You're looking for local VLAN significance. You probably have to get one of the WAN-style (ES20/40 for sure, don't know for SIP/SPA) cards. -- Tassos Mark Tech wrote on 28/11/2008 17:52: Hi With my GSR, I can split traffic on seperate physical interfaces, reusing the same vlan #, i.e.

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-11-28 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
Just to add (if i remember right) that ES and SRB didn't support local VLAN significance under single tagged subifs. I haven't checked if SRD and/or ES+ solve this problem. -- Tassos Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote on 28/11/2008 18:01: You're looking for local VLAN significance. You probably

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-11-28 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 07:52:23AM -0800, Mark Tech wrote: Is there anyway around this? I want the 7600 to act like a router, not a switch! In that case, buy a router, not a switch... The upside is that the 7600 can do proper ether channels - so if you just want to distribute traffic for

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 vlan issue

2008-11-28 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2008-11-28 18:07 +0200), Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: Just to add (if i remember right) that ES and SRB didn't support local VLAN significance under single tagged subifs. I haven't checked if SRD and/or ES+ solve this problem. ES+ does solve the issue indeed, but you're still limited