Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-17 Thread adamv0025
> Mark Tinka > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 11:38 AM > > However, if the limitations in Broadcom chips apply to > all vendors that use them, no amount of software hackery will fix that. So if > both Arista and Cisco are struggling to deliver the same features due to a > limitation in the

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Jan/20 16:57, Tom Hill wrote: > To some extent, I would agree. Though I do not agree entirely. > > At a certain level of "one size fits all", you reach a point where no, > actually that box isn't suitable for every function. Either it's > designed for a different use-case, or the bill of

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Jan/20 16:52, Brian Turnbow wrote: > You neglected to mention that they also mostly provide feature parity across > the platforms that use that silicon > So box a and box b will do the sames things in the same way, with the same > commands. > So no we at business unit service provider

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-10 Thread Tom Hill
On 09/01/2020 18:19, Gert Doering wrote: > Cisco has a zillion products that mainly differenciate in "which of > the advertised features are unusable or broken" and "what operating > system do we use this week?". > > Ditching out half the products and using the engineering capacity > freed by

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-10 Thread Brian Turnbow via cisco-nsp
--- Begin Message --- Hi, > Broadcom levels the playing field amongst traditional and new vendors. > If Cisco and Juniper have the same access to Broadcom chips as do newer > market entrants such as Arista and Arrcus, what are we really paying the > traditional, expensive vendors for when

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-10 Thread Brian Turnbow via cisco-nsp
--- Begin Message --- Hi, > > I do have *null* understanding for "we have cisco proprietary protocols that > our customers are actively using (HSRP, EIGRP) but we do not support this on > because we can, buy something else!" (EIGRP on IOS XR > on NCS5k, HSRPv2 with IPv6 on ASR920). >

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Jan/20 13:09, Sigurbjörn Birkir Lárusson wrote: > > > Additionally The NCS line, both the DC and SP products, are based on Broadcom > chipsets which are heavily limited in their capabilities, particularly egress > TCAM capabilities are limited in such a way that it makes it almost

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-10 Thread Sigurbjörn Birkir Lárusson
On 9/Jan/20 20:19, Gert Doering wrote: >> Cisco has a zillion products that mainly differenciate in "which of >> the advertised features are unusable or broken" and "what operating >> system do we use this week?". >> >> Ditching out half the products and using the

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/Jan/20 20:19, Gert Doering wrote: > Cisco has a zillion products that mainly differenciate in "which of > the advertised features are unusable or broken" and "what operating > system do we use this week?". > > Ditching out half the products and using the engineering capacity > freed by

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 07:01:32PM +0100, Ted Pelas Johansson wrote: > So you are saying that a vendor shouldn't have certain products for certain > domains? I'm unsure what your reasons is to be honest. Cisco has a zillion products that mainly differenciate in "which of the advertised

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-09 Thread Ted Pelas Johansson
So you are saying that a vendor shouldn't have certain products for certain domains? I'm unsure what your reasons is to be honest. Best Regards, Ted Pelas Johansson On 9 Jan 2020, 18:30 +0100, Gert Doering , wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 04:34:53PM +, Tom Hill wrote: > > On

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 04:34:53PM +, Tom Hill wrote: > On 09/01/2020 15:56, Adrian Minta wrote: > > Nexus 9000 is more suitable for this task. Even the price is much lower. > > This. Stick with the data centre products for data centre tasks. > > If you need NCS for some other reason as

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-09 Thread Tom Hill
On 09/01/2020 15:56, Adrian Minta wrote: > Nexus 9000 is more suitable for this task. Even the price is much lower. This. Stick with the data centre products for data centre tasks. If you need NCS for some other reason as well, that's fine, but start with the suitable product range as Adrian

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-09 Thread Adrian Minta
Hello, Nexus 9000 is more suitable for this task. Even the price is much lower. On 1/8/20 6:53 PM, Alex K. wrote: Hello everyone, A customer of mine's interested in acquiring some NCS boxes, in order to aggregate all their servers with few NCSes as possible and p2p connect between them

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-09 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Wed, 2020-01-08 at 18:53 +0200, Alex K. wrote: > A customer of mine's interested in acquiring some NCS boxes, in order > to aggregate all their servers with few NCSes as possible and p2p > connect between them (actually between few small DCs), using VxLAN. I can't seem to find anything on NCS

[c-nsp] Cisco NCS VxLAN Experience

2020-01-08 Thread Alex K.
Hello everyone, A customer of mine's interested in acquiring some NCS boxes, in order to aggregate all their servers with few NCSes as possible and p2p connect between them (actually between few small DCs), using VxLAN. On paper it looks good. NCS seems to offer good port density, reasonable