Re: [c-nsp] Cisco noob -- design guidance request

2007-09-04 Thread Antonio Querubin
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, C. Jon Larsen wrote: > Where is the access list that is going to prevent cross talk between the > subnets ? Otherwise rogueware on one tenants computer will attack the > other tenants. Simply splitting each tenant onto its own vlan is ncie but > its a far cry from secure if yo

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco noob -- design guidance request

2007-09-04 Thread C. Jon Larsen
>> Where is the access list that is going to prevent cross talk between the >> subnets ? Otherwise rogueware on one tenants computer will attack the >> other tenants. Simply splitting each tenant onto its own vlan is ncie but >> its a far cry from secure if you tie the subnets into a router that

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco noob -- design guidance request

2007-09-03 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 04:51:46PM +0200, Niels Bakker wrote: > I assume you'll be selling these people Internet access. If they get 172.16-Addresses, he's not selling Internet access... SCNR. gert -- USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW!

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco noob -- design guidance request

2007-09-02 Thread Brian Desmond
lf Of David L. West > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:48 AM > To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Cisco noob -- design guidance request > > > No - you just need one Layer 3 device, with an interface in each > subnet. > > Neither the 2960G nor the 3

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco noob -- design guidance request

2007-09-02 Thread C. Jon Larsen
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Niels Bakker wrote: >>> Where is the access list that is going to prevent cross talk between the >>> subnets ? Otherwise rogueware on one tenants computer will attack the >>> other tenants. Simply splitting each tenant onto its own vlan is ncie but >>> its a far cry from secu

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco noob -- design guidance request

2007-09-02 Thread David L. West
> I assume you'll be selling these people Internet access. Their > neighbours are also part of the Internet. I see no reason why you > should protect those from each other but not any other host connected to > the Internet. > (I, for one, will have my internet transparent please, thankyouverymuc

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco noob -- design guidance request

2007-09-02 Thread Niels Bakker
>> Where is the access list that is going to prevent cross talk between the >> subnets ? Otherwise rogueware on one tenants computer will attack the >> other tenants. Simply splitting each tenant onto its own vlan is ncie but >> its a far cry from secure if you tie the subnets into a router tha

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco noob -- design guidance request

2007-09-02 Thread David L. West
> No - you just need one Layer 3 device, with an interface in each subnet. > Neither the 2960G nor the 3548XL is a Layer 3 device, so you'll need to > find > a router from somewhere, and trunk all the vlans into that to do the > routing > between them, and to the outside world. > If I understand

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco noob -- design guidance request

2007-09-02 Thread David L. West
> Where is the access list that is going to prevent cross talk between the > subnets ? Otherwise rogueware on one tenants computer will attack the > other tenants. Simply splitting each tenant onto its own vlan is ncie but > its a far cry from secure if you tie the subnets into a router that is >

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco noob -- design guidance request

2007-09-02 Thread Simon Lockhart
On Sun Sep 02, 2007 at 08:16:14AM -0600, David L. West wrote: > Thanks. I think I screwed up buying the hardware though. I have a 2960G-24TC > as the core switch in the server room, a 2960-48TT for the first floor, and > a 3548XL for the 3rd. Only the last is Layer 3. > > Reading your message an

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco noob -- design guidance request

2007-09-02 Thread David L. West
Thanks. I think I screwed up buying the hardware though. I have a 2960G-24TC as the core switch in the server room, a 2960-48TT for the first floor, and a 3548XL for the 3rd. Only the last is Layer 3. Reading your message and doing further research I begin to suspect I have to have Layer 3 swit

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco noob -- design guidance request

2007-09-02 Thread C. Jon Larsen
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Simon Lockhart wrote: > On Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:12:07PM -0600, David L. West wrote: >> I'm setting up a new LAN in an office building with multiple tenants who >> will be sharing internet access, DNS/DHCP but have individual VLANS to keep >> them seperate from the other tena

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco noob -- design guidance request

2007-09-02 Thread Simon Lockhart
On Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 10:12:07PM -0600, David L. West wrote: > I'm setting up a new LAN in an office building with multiple tenants who > will be sharing internet access, DNS/DHCP but have individual VLANS to keep > them seperate from the other tenants. I think that the key here is having > ea

[c-nsp] Cisco noob -- design guidance request

2007-09-02 Thread David L. West
I'm setting up a new LAN in an office building with multiple tenants who will be sharing internet access, DNS/DHCP but have individual VLANS to keep them seperate from the other tenants. I think that the key here is having each VLAN have a "helper address" that serves as a DHCP Relay Agent , wh