Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2016-05-14 Thread James Bensley
On 14 May 2016 at 09:23, Gert Doering wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 06:57:42AM +, Adam Vitkovsky wrote: >> Thank you very much for posting this back to the list, >> Wasn't aware the hierarchical lookup is most likely done via >> recirculation on 7600 (what a nasty trick) > > Well, I

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2016-05-14 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 06:57:42AM +, Adam Vitkovsky wrote: > Thank you very much for posting this back to the list, > Wasn't aware the hierarchical lookup is most likely done via > recirculation on 7600 (what a nasty trick) Well, I find it an interesting option to give to users - if yo

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2016-05-13 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
> James Bensley > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:45 PM > To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600 > > On 23 April 2016 at 20:38, Adam Vitkovsky > wrote: > >> Reviving this old thread, is anyone running a hierarchical FIB on

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2016-05-03 Thread James Bensley
On 23 April 2016 at 20:38, Adam Vitkovsky wrote: >> Reviving this old thread, is anyone running a hierarchical FIB on a 7600, >> how is >> it working for you? Has it halved your PPS rate for >> VPNv4/VPNv6 traffic due to recirculation? >> > Sorry can't comment on this I've had some off lists res

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2016-04-23 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
> James Bensley > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 5:55 PM > > Hi All, > > Reviving this old thread, is anyone running a hierarchical FIB on a 7600, how > is > it working for you? Has it halved your PPS rate for > VPNv4/VPNv6 traffic due to recirculation? > Sorry can't comment on this > PIC Edge

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2016-04-21 Thread James Bensley
Hi All, Reviving this old thread, is anyone running a hierarchical FIB on a 7600, how is it working for you? Has it halved your PPS rate for VPNv4/VPNv6 traffic due to recirculation? The Cisco documentation is fairly light and ambiguous. L2 and L3 VPNs are a major bread-and-butter at $dayjob so h

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2014-04-26 Thread redscorpion69
Hi Christian. I think I get now; I think using "bgp add-path install" installs route in CEF, rather than route sitting in BGP table only. So no waiting on best path selection process. But I don't think it's sitting in RIB, I mean it doesn't use extra TCAM space, only DRAM? Anyway, thanks all agai

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2014-04-26 Thread Christian Meutes
On 26 Apr 2014, at 12:50, Cydon Satyr wrote: > I see. But then is there any effect of having repair path installed with > "bgp additional-paths install" command on platform without Hierarchical > FIBs or is it purely cosmetic? Regardless of PIC through ADD-PATH you can make use of multiple pathe

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2014-04-26 Thread redscorpion69
I guess any BGP PIC is out of the question on 7600 with flat fib and single uplink. Regards On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Cydon Satyr wrote: > I see. But then is there any effect of having repair path installed with > "bgp additional-paths install" command on platform without Hierarchical

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2014-04-26 Thread Cydon Satyr
I see. But then is there any effect of having repair path installed with "bgp additional-paths install" command on platform without Hierarchical FIBs or is it purely cosmetic? Thank you again :) On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) < oboeh...@cisco.com> wrote: > > >Thank y

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2014-04-25 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
>Thank you all; so let me just see if I got this right. > >If we're not loadbalancing with IGP (instead there's primary/backup >uplink) >on edge, and not using H.FIB (with cef table output-chain build favor >convergence-speed) and we're running full BGP table on edge routers, >anyone >with experi

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2014-04-25 Thread redscorpion69
Thank you all; so let me just see if I got this right. If we're not loadbalancing with IGP (instead there's primary/backup uplink) on edge, and not using H.FIB (with cef table output-chain build favor convergence-speed) and we're running full BGP table on edge routers, anyone with experience on ho

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2014-04-25 Thread Pete Lumbis
for PIC Core IP2IP hacks it using loadbalance adjacencies. VPNv4 requires recirc. PIC Edge is a different story since we are pre-installing the backup path like FRR On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Saku Ytti wrote: > On (2014-04-25 10:56 -0400), Pete Lumbis wrote: > > > The difference in comm

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2014-04-25 Thread Pete Lumbis
Gotcha. My apologize for misunderstanding. Living in TAC makes me assume nothing works the way people want it to :) On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Gert Doering wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:45:22PM -0400, Pete Lumbis wrote: > > Leave default behavior, don't get new features, re

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2014-04-25 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2014-04-25 10:56 -0400), Pete Lumbis wrote: > The difference in commands is mainly in relation to software/memory. This > has the biggest impact on software based platforms like the 7200 but you'll > see an uptick in RP/SP memory usage by enabling, but only changes how > routes are built in ha

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2014-04-25 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:45:22PM -0400, Pete Lumbis wrote: > Leave default behavior, don't get new features, require users to enable > command to get the thing they want > > or > > automatically change the way we do things, increase RP memory usage and > make people VERY unhappy when they

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2014-04-25 Thread Pete Lumbis
Leave default behavior, don't get new features, require users to enable command to get the thing they want or automatically change the way we do things, increase RP memory usage and make people VERY unhappy when they upgrade and run into problems they didn't expect. It's a no-win situation On

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2014-04-25 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:56:47AM -0400, Pete Lumbis wrote: > Hierarchical FIB is not enabled by default on 7600 and you must enable "cef > table output-chain build favor convergence-speed" like you mention. I'm truly amazed. At least the command is available on 6500 as well. *rub eyes* T

Re: [c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2014-04-25 Thread Pete Lumbis
Hierarchical FIB is not enabled by default on 7600 and you must enable "cef table output-chain build favor convergence-speed" like you mention. Turning it on should have no impact. Turning it off could see a route reprogram event and could cause packet loss while it happens. As with everything, us

[c-nsp] Hierarchical FIB on Cisco 7600

2014-04-25 Thread redscorpion69
Hello, Does 7600 runs Hierachical FIB by default? The command to enable this should be: *cef table output-chain build favor convergence-**speed* The default on 7600 seems to be: *cef table output-chain build favor default* The document says: "General Characteristics Use the *cef table outp