[c-nsp] LNS Alternatives

2016-05-21 Thread CiscoNSP List
Hi Everyone, We have around 5 POPs that need to terminate DSL tails, so require LNS - historically, we have done this on 7200's, now with 7200 basically EOLd, we are looking at the ASR1K's, but the broadband licensing on them is heinously expensive...Just wondering what others are using as an

Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives

2016-05-21 Thread Charles Sprickman
> On May 21, 2016, at 8:32 PM, CiscoNSP List wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > We have around 5 POPs that need to terminate DSL tails, so require LNS - > historically, we have done this on 7200's, now with 7200 basically EOLd, we > are looking at the ASR1K's, but the broadband licensing on them

Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives

2016-05-21 Thread CiscoNSP List
r the link/info. From: Charles Sprickman Sent: Sunday, 22 May 2016 10:48 AM To: CiscoNSP List Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives > On May 21, 2016, at 8:32 PM, CiscoNSP List wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > We have around 5 POPs tha

Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives

2016-05-21 Thread Patrick Cole
I have used l2tpns in a cluster successfully in the past for this. It's capable of doing 65k sessions per cluster if you throw enough nodes at it. The codebase is fairly stable and has been around for a long time but isn't really maintained anymore. We recently moved to the ASR1k platform for B

Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives

2016-05-21 Thread CiscoNSP List
ealol, they make it so simple :) Cheers From: Patrick Cole Sent: Sunday, 22 May 2016 11:52 AM To: CiscoNSP List Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives I have used l2tpns in a cluster successfully in the past for this. It's capa

Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives

2016-05-23 Thread James Bensley
> we are only doing ~2-3000 tailsbut to do the same on an ASR1Kwhoa! > price is a killer. At this level you only need two boxes with the correct broadband licenses (not the 5 originally mentioned, unless you have some other requirements relating to geo-diversity or backhaul connectivity).

Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives

2016-05-23 Thread CiscoNSP List
d 1001 vs the 1001-X series?(From your e-mail, sounds like there is?) Thanks very much for your notes+linksIll be reading them tonight :) From: cisco-nsp on behalf of James Bensley Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 6:32 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject:

Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives

2016-05-23 Thread Nathan Ward
> On 22/05/2016, at 12:48, Charles Sprickman wrote: > > >> On May 21, 2016, at 8:32 PM, CiscoNSP List wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> >> We have around 5 POPs that need to terminate DSL tails, so require LNS - >> historically, we have done this on 7200's, now with 7200 basically EOLd, we

Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives

2016-05-23 Thread James Bensley
On 23 May 2016 at 10:03, CiscoNSP List wrote: > Cheers James - We need them all(5), as our POPs are geographically VERY far > apart lol..majority of our customers are eth based, and use DSL as either > redundant link, or where eth/fibre not available...unfortunately, they > make a HUGE

Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives

2016-05-23 Thread raf
I would also recommend to have a look at openl2tp. Software LNS are a good solution if you only need basic features. If you want to separate user in vrf/context it was a bit more complicated, as you have to dedicate instance by vrf. but nothing impossible. So the choice is as always, a relative

Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives

2016-05-23 Thread CiscoNSP List
appreciated. From: cisco-nsp on behalf of James Bensley Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 7:28 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives On 23 May 2016 at 10:03, CiscoNSP List wrote: > Cheers James - We need them all(5), as our POPs

Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives

2016-05-23 Thread CiscoNSP List
Cheers Raphael - Wasnt aware of the vrf complexities.this would hurt us significantly, as 70-80% of our DSL tails are in vrf's From: cisco-nsp on behalf of raf Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 7:39 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [

Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives

2016-05-23 Thread Dale Shaw
(Resending to list from subscribed address -- got my puck nsp lists mixed up :-)) On Monday, 23 May 2016, Dale Shaw wrote: > Hi anonymous poster, and James, > > On Monday, 23 May 2016, James Bensley wrote: > >> Have you considered >> Juniper too? You can do all the same stuff on MX's as far as

Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives

2016-05-23 Thread raf
f raf Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 7:39 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives I would also recommend to have a look at openl2tp. Software LNS are a good solution if you only need basic features. If you want to separate user in vrf/context it was a bit more complicate

Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives

2016-05-23 Thread Pshem Kowalczyk
Hi, On Mon, 23 May 2016 at 21:04 CiscoNSP List wrote: > Cheers James - We need them all(5), as our POPs are geographically VERY > far apart lol..majority of our customers are eth based, and use DSL as > either redundant link, or where eth/fibre not > available...unfortunately, they make

Re: [c-nsp] LNS Alternatives

2016-05-23 Thread Mark Tinka
On 23/May/16 10:32, James Bensley wrote: > At this level you only need two boxes with the correct broadband > licenses (not the 5 originally mentioned, unless you have some other > requirements relating to geo-diversity or backhaul connectivity). > > I recommend you advoice the ASR1002-X if poss