Re: [c-nsp] Learning L2 switching and spanning tree by doing

2008-04-11 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi, If you can find a FM that discusses converting from, say, default PVST to cross-vendor MST, on a live network across a large campus without an engineer in every closet with a laptop, serial console, and cell phone, let me know :-) no such book or doc as far as i'm aware. but i did

Re: [c-nsp] Learning L2 switching and spanning tree by doing

2008-04-10 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 04:09:42AM +0200, Kim Onnel wrote: I cant seem to get myself to understand spanning tree, SVIs and all the sort by just reading, i dont have access to switches to get my hands to configure, any suggestions? For spanning tree, I can recommend the book Bridges and

Re: [c-nsp] Learning L2 switching and spanning tree by doing

2008-04-10 Thread Dean Smith
Download GNS3 (or just dynagen/dynamips) for some hands on. Although there is no direct cisco switch emulation, you can install an NM-16ESW in a 3600 and get the important features. If you've ever had a real networkand accidentally created a loop in an environment without spanningtreeand

Re: [c-nsp] Learning L2 switching and spanning tree by doing

2008-04-10 Thread Jeff Kell
Dean Smith wrote: If you've ever had a real networkand accidentally created a loop in an environment without spanningtreeand then watched the network melt and all the activity lights go solidspanning-tree becomes much easier to understand. You can learn a lot about spanning tree

Re: [c-nsp] Learning L2 switching and spanning tree by doing

2008-04-10 Thread Sean Granger
This is starting to look like the most egalitarian thread in sometime. Calm down guys, sharing and laughing over common hardships might let the others know we weren't simply always experts in all areas. Reading a book will only get you so far, right? ;) Jeff Kell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/10/08

Re: [c-nsp] Learning L2 switching and spanning tree by doing

2008-04-10 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 03:19:16PM -0500, Sean Granger wrote: Reading a book will only get you so far, right? ;) Reading the *right* book helps a lot :) - and then, it's build a network, change things, see it explode, find out why it happened, and swear to yourself that it won't happen

[c-nsp] Learning L2 switching and spanning tree by doing

2008-04-09 Thread Kim Onnel
Hello, I cant seem to get myself to understand spanning tree, SVIs and all the sort by just reading, i dont have access to switches to get my hands to configure, any suggestions? Thanks, Kim ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

Re: [c-nsp] Learning L2 switching and spanning tree by doing

2008-04-09 Thread David Prall
Start playing with IRB -- http://dcp.dcptech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Onnel Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:10 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] Learning L2 switching and spanning tree by doing