Re: [c-nsp] MPLS MTU / Jumbo frames etc.

2009-07-24 Thread David Freedman
> > For a 7200 with FE ports this translates into: > > mpls mtu 1546 But not PA-(2)FE-TX(-ISL) or IO-(2)FE because they have an inbuilt 1530B "on the wire" limitation > > Please see discussion regarding this from ~1 year back. > ___ cisco-nsp mai

Re: [c-nsp] MPLS MTU / Jumbo frames etc.

2009-07-23 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Ray Burkholder wrote: When people define these MTU sizes, what does this size include? The payload? The ip header? Layer 2 header? Some documentation seems murky on this issue. Depends on the platform. Several networks I have been working on has been standardised to

Re: [c-nsp] MPLS MTU / Jumbo frames etc.

2009-07-23 Thread Ray Burkholder
> Also the 3560/3750 series support jumbo frames up to "only" 9000 bytes. When people define these MTU sizes, what does this size include? The payload? The ip header? Layer 2 header? Some documentation seems murky on this issue. When working with MTU changes necessary for MPLS operation,

Re: [c-nsp] MPLS MTU / Jumbo frames etc.

2009-07-23 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 11:50 +0800, Mark Tinka wrote: > We've standardized on 9,000 bytes on all our switches and routers, > especially so because we are both a C & J house. > > Different line cards that support different values, different switch > models within C that support different values, are

Re: [c-nsp] MPLS MTU / Jumbo frames etc.

2009-07-22 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday 23 July 2009 04:13:51 am Brandon Applegate wrote: > I still think I'm > going to proclaim that jumbo == 9000 to make it easier > for server / storage guys to remember anyway :) We've standardized on 9,000 bytes on all our switches and routers, especially so because we are both a C &

Re: [c-nsp] MPLS MTU / Jumbo frames etc.

2009-07-22 Thread Justin Shore
Brandon Applegate wrote: I think I figured (part of) this out. Packets to the router != packets through the router. Trying to ping something on the far side with packet size of 9188/9216 gets me the expected icmp frag @ 9212. I still think I'm going to proclaim that jumbo == 9000 to make it

Re: [c-nsp] MPLS MTU / Jumbo frames etc.

2009-07-22 Thread Brandon Applegate
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Brandon Applegate wrote: I know this has been covered, at least in part on this list before, and I have read those posts. However, I'm still trying to wrap my head around what is happening internally (or rather on the wire) in the various scenarios. Scenario #3 =

Re: [c-nsp] MPLS MTU / Jumbo frames etc.

2009-07-22 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 02:37:16PM -0400, Brandon Applegate wrote: > >I'd bet that the linux box is not sending full-sized 9220 packets, but > >fragmenting inside. [..] > Yes I have my MTU cranked up in linux and am doing all of this > intentionally as a test. Unless tcpdump is lying to me,

Re: [c-nsp] MPLS MTU / Jumbo frames etc.

2009-07-22 Thread Brandon Applegate
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Gert Doering wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 02:16:29PM -0400, Brandon Applegate wrote: Scenario 3 really gets me though. Why doesnt it complain and tell me icmp frag to 9212 or something ? Isnt the frame 9220 when it's all said and done ? Is the router fragmenting t

Re: [c-nsp] MPLS MTU / Jumbo frames etc.

2009-07-22 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 02:16:29PM -0400, Brandon Applegate wrote: > Scenario 3 really gets me though. Why doesnt it complain and tell me icmp > frag to 9212 or something ? Isnt the frame 9220 when it's all said and > done ? Is the router fragmenting this in software at the 'mpls level' a

[c-nsp] MPLS MTU / Jumbo frames etc.

2009-07-22 Thread Brandon Applegate
I know this has been covered, at least in part on this list before, and I have read those posts. However, I'm still trying to wrap my head around what is happening internally (or rather on the wire) in the various scenarios. Scenario #1 === 10 gig interface (ES20 CXL based) - default