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On Saturday, March 4th, 2023 at 16:38, Tarko Tikan wrote:
>
> hey,
Yo,
> > "ztp initiate dataport"
>
>
> We were discussing iPXE and not normal ZTP. iPXE is only possible via
> OOB management port and allows software install via DHCP options, normal
> ZTP will
hey,
"ztp initiate dataport"
We were discussing iPXE and not normal ZTP. iPXE is only possible via
OOB management port and allows software install via DHCP options, normal
ZTP will work inband but does not allow software install via DHCP options.
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tarko
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On Wednesday, March 1st, 2023 at 09:43, Tarko Tikan via cisco-nsp
wrote:
> > My long-term solution to this problem is to install with iPXE. That lets
> > you do it via HTTP and without all the nonsense :)
>
>
> Unfortunately this is only possible via OOB
not necessarily something I
would advocate.
Thanks,
Phil
From: cisco-nsp on behalf of Tarko Tikan
via cisco-nsp
Date: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 3:56 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] NCS IOS-XR rant (was:Re: Internet border router
recommendations and experiences)
hey
hey,
With XR7 the idea was to mimic how things are done with Linux repos
by having a specific RPM repo for the routers and the patches which
is managed similar to Linux and that’s how all software is packaged
now.
I'd argue you'd want your devices to be cattle and not pets. When doing
hey,
You can, at least in later versions use install replace with http, at
least with GISO. You also do not need the apply command, and you can
include “commit” in the replace command so it’s not required after the
device reboots.
Not sure all those improvements have been delivered for
On 3/1/23 10:04, Saku Ytti wrote:
There are two paths that consumers would accept
a) immutable NOS, you give it image, it boots up and converges in <5min
b) mutable NOS, process restarts keep state, if upgrade is hitful,
forwarding stoppage should be measured in low seconds
I think
hey,
My long-term solution to this problem is to install with iPXE. That lets
you do it via HTTP and without all the nonsense :)
Unfortunately this is only possible via OOB ethernet management port. So
this cannot be used for thousands of devices on the field where you only
have inband
On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 02:41, Phil Bedard via cisco-nsp
wrote:
> With XR7 the idea was to mimic how things are done with Linux repos by having
> a specific RPM repo for the routers and the patches which is managed similar
> to Linux and that’s how all software is packaged now. Dependencies are
@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] NCS IOS-XR rant (was:Re: Internet border router
recommendations and experiences)
Cisco's method for rolling out updates (basically stuck in the 90s) is becoming
more and more of a liability. When evaluating vendors I have started to place
high importance in how
the device reboots.
Phil
From: cisco-nsp on behalf of Tarko Tikan
via cisco-nsp
Date: Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 9:45 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] NCS IOS-XR rant (was:Re: Internet border router
recommendations and experiences)
hey,
> XR for a number of years now has
Hi,
On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 08:33:47AM -0800, William McCall via cisco-nsp wrote:
> My long-term solution to this problem is to install with iPXE. That lets
> you do it via HTTP and without all the nonsense :)
This sounds like a fairly long downtime to do upgrades... not exactly
what I want
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 6:45 AM Tarko Tikan via cisco-nsp <
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> wrote:
> hey,
>
> > XR for a number of years now has had the concept of a “golden ISO”.
> > It’s a single image either built by Cisco or customers can build
> > their own that include the base software and the
: [c-nsp] NCS IOS-XR rant (was:Re: Internet border router
recommendations and experiences)
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On 2/26/23 16:44, Tarko Tikan via cisco-nsp wrote
On 2/26/23 16:44, Tarko Tikan via cisco-nsp wrote:
Well, not so in practice.
You can't issue install from http:// or any other remote URL.
You have to sit around and issue "install apply" after "install
replace" is finished. Replace is async so you have to sit around and
poll the
hey,
XR for a number of years now has had the concept of a “golden ISO”.
It’s a single image either built by Cisco or customers can build
their own that include the base software and the SMUs in a single
image. You just issue a single “install replace myiso.iso” and
that’s it.
Well, not so
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