Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-13 Thread Phil Mayers
On 10/12/2010 09:46 PM, Gert Doering wrote: Hi, On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:59:28PM -0500, christopher.mar...@usc-bt.com wrote: The switch listens to the following messages in order to detect router ports with IGMP snooping: · IGMP Membership query send to 01?00?5e?00?00?01 · PIMv1 hello send

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-13 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 08:18:47AM +0100, Phil Mayers wrote: On 10/12/2010 09:46 PM, Gert Doering wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:59:28PM -0500, christopher.mar...@usc-bt.com wrote: The switch listens to the following messages in order to detect router ports with IGMP snooping: ·

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-13 Thread Phil Mayers
On 10/13/2010 08:37 AM, Gert Doering wrote: Hi, On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 08:18:47AM +0100, Phil Mayers wrote: On 10/12/2010 09:46 PM, Gert Doering wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:59:28PM -0500, christopher.mar...@usc-bt.com wrote: The switch listens to the following messages in order to

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-13 Thread Rob Taylor
On 10/13/2010 3:41 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 10/13/2010 08:37 AM, Gert Doering wrote: Hi, On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 08:18:47AM +0100, Phil Mayers wrote: On 10/12/2010 09:46 PM, Gert Doering wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:59:28PM -0500, christopher.mar...@usc-bt.com wrote: The switch

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-13 Thread Phil Mayers
On 13/10/10 13:32, Rob Taylor wrote: Now I must admit: when I think about it, I don't know what model the layer2 switch in question was; it may not even have been a Cisco (this was some time back) in which case Christopher may also be right ;o) Christopher is right here ... in this case,

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-13 Thread David Barak
There is a document on cisco#39;s site regarding how IGMP snooping breaks multicast in typical LAN environments. I don#39;t have the link handy, but it should be googleable. Effectively, the issue is that the switches do not have a way to properly identify the mrouter port, and end up cutting

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-13 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 06:08 -0700, David Barak wrote: There is a document on cisco#39;s site regarding how IGMP snooping breaks multicast in typical LAN environments. I don#39;t have the link handy, but it should be googleable. Effectively, the issue is that the switches do not have a way to

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-13 Thread Christopher.Marget
Peter said: On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 06:08 -0700, David Barak wrote: There is a document on cisco#39;s site regarding how IGMP snooping breaks multicast in typical LAN environments. I don#39;t have the link handy, but it should be googleable. Effectively, the issue is that the switches do

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-13 Thread John Neiberger
It sounds like you might be describing a case where - IGMP snooping is enabled on a switch - There's no IGMP querier on the VLAN If so, then we're in agreement.  That doesn't work (though it may appear to work at first). There's a fourth option on some L2 switching platforms: enable an

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-13 Thread Steven Pfister
Thanks again for everyone's help on this matter, and sorry about the quoting problems from yesterday... I think this is almost working. I was hoping to ask about one more point on this. The 8540 that is part of this equation is set up for IRB. The vlan that the servers are on is bridged

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-12 Thread Steven Pfister
That makes sense... igmp snooping seems to be enabled, but it still isn't working. Is there something else that needs to be done to the 2960? Steve Pfister Technical Coordinator, The Office of Information Technology Dayton Public Schools 115 S. Ludlow St. Dayton, OH 45402 Office (937)

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-12 Thread John Neiberger
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Steven Pfister spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us wrote: That makes sense... igmp snooping seems to be enabled, but it still isn't working. Is there something else that needs to be done to the 2960? Do you know if this is source-specific multicast? If so, your layer-two

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-12 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:50:09AM -0400, Steven Pfister wrote: That makes sense... igmp snooping seems to be enabled, but it still isn't working. Is there something else that needs to be done to the 2960? Since there is no IGMP between routers, IGMP snooping can not be helpful here.

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-12 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 17:08 +0200, Gert Doering wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:50:09AM -0400, Steven Pfister wrote: That makes sense... igmp snooping seems to be enabled, but it still isn't working. Is there something else that needs to be done to the 2960? Since there is no IGMP

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-12 Thread John Neiberger
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Peter Rathlev pe...@rathlev.dk wrote: On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 17:08 +0200, Gert Doering wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:50:09AM -0400, Steven Pfister wrote: That makes sense... igmp snooping seems to be enabled, but it still isn't working. Is there something

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-12 Thread Steven Pfister
It's not really going router-switch-router... The video encoders are connected to the 2960, which connects to the 4506 at the remote side. The vendor has installed the video encoders but I haven't actually been to the remote end to see them yet. I'm not sure yet if they're still trying to

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-12 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 07:45:10PM +0200, Peter Rathlev wrote: I don't know much about multicast, but aren't routed multicast packets sent as L2 unicast between multicast routers? No. I'm just guessing here, but I don't see why routed multicast traffic would need to have the L2 group

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-12 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, *please* fix your quoting. Your top posting makes it very hard to see what you're referring to, and since you want something, it would be prudent to make it easy for us to help. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:34:35PM -0400, Steven Pfister wrote: It's not really going router-switch-router...

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-12 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 21:07 +0200, Gert Doering wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 07:45:10PM +0200, Peter Rathlev wrote: but I don't see why routed multicast traffic would need to have the L2 group bit set. Well, if you only ever have two routers in a subnet, it doesn't need to... But

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-12 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 09:18:04PM +0200, Peter Rathlev wrote: On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 21:07 +0200, Gert Doering wrote: But what if you have 20 routers in a subnet and want the multicast traffic to be heard by only those 5 that are interested in it? Ah, of course. Does the switch (e.g.

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-12 Thread Christopher.Marget
Gert Doering said: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 07:45:10PM +0200, Peter Rathlev wrote: I'm just guessing here, but I don't see why routed multicast traffic would need to have the L2 group bit set. Well, if you only ever have two routers in a subnet, it doesn't need to... But what if you

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with setting up ip multicastrouting

2010-10-12 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:59:28PM -0500, christopher.mar...@usc-bt.com wrote: The switch listens to the following messages in order to detect router ports with IGMP snooping: · IGMP Membership query send to 01?00?5e?00?00?01 · PIMv1 hello send to 01?00?5e?00?00?02 · PIMv2 hello send to