Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-10 Thread Andreas Sikkema
Hi, > Not if the person making the buying decision is not the engineer who > gets to deploy the product in the end. Hence "time to market“ and > "requirements“ in Powerpoint. If it were up to just the operational people we'd still be driving horseless carriages with a driver high up front.

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-10 Thread Saku Ytti
On 10 February 2016 at 09:45, Antoine Monnier wrote: Hey, > I am wondering what is the driver for this > running-for-latest-feature-while-code-is-unusable approach? > surely customers are not asking for that, are they? should customer > requirements not be the main

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-10 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi, all, > Am 10.02.2016 um 08:45 schrieb Antoine Monnier : > > (sorry keyboard issues) > > I am wondering what is the driver for this > running-for-latest-feature-while-code-is-unusable approach? > surely customers are not asking for that, are they? should customer

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 11:10:48AM +0100, Antoine Monnier wrote: > thanks Nick for the feedback (and sorry for hijacking this thread) > > I am still quite frustrated with the number of issues with that line of > switch considering that it has been introduced 3 years ago now... Is that > the

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-09 Thread Antoine Monnier
emy Bresley > Cc: cisco-nsp NSP > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960 > > In our environment, with QoS applied on the LAN (classification, marking, > queuing, etc) we have had quite a few issues with the 3850 deployed at the > access-layer, mainly centered on QoS. We are

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-09 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
> Gert Doering > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 10:39 AM > > Hi, > > On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 11:10:48AM +0100, Antoine Monnier wrote: > > thanks Nick for the feedback (and sorry for hijacking this thread) > > > > I am still quite frustrated with the number of issues with that line > > of switch

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-09 Thread Antoine Monnier
I On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Adam Vitkovsky wrote: > > Gert Doering > > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 10:39 AM > > > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 11:10:48AM +0100, Antoine Monnier wrote: > > > thanks Nick for the feedback (and sorry for hijacking

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-09 Thread Antoine Monnier
I On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Antoine Monnier wrote: > I > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Adam Vitkovsky > wrote: > >> > Gert Doering >> > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 10:39 AM >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 08:45:05AM +0100, Antoine Monnier wrote: > (sorry keyboard issues) > > I am wondering what is the driver for this > running-for-latest-feature-while-code-is-unusable approach? > surely customers are not asking for that, are they? should customer > requirements not be

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-09 Thread Antoine Monnier
(sorry keyboard issues) I am wondering what is the driver for this running-for-latest-feature-while-code-is-unusable approach? surely customers are not asking for that, are they? should customer requirements not be the main drivers? On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Antoine Monnier

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-08 Thread Nick Cutting
of the new AC AP's. -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Antoine Monnier Sent: 08 February 2016 07:56 To: Jeremy Bresley Cc: cisco-nsp NSP Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960 In our environment, with QoS applied on the LAN

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-07 Thread Antoine Monnier
de | Senior Network Architect | ViaWest, Inc. >> O: 720.891.2502 | C: 303.720.2711 | mack.mcbr...@viawest.com | >> www.viawest.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of >> John Gaffn

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-05 Thread Tom Hill
On 05/02/16 15:45, Nikolay Shopik wrote: >> > Though, I've not seen anything mentioned in regards to the newer 3650/3850. > These have double amount of shared memory compare to what 2960S/3560X have Good to know! -- Tom ___ cisco-nsp mailing list

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-05 Thread Nick Cutting
] Output drops on 2960 On 05/02/16 15:45, Nikolay Shopik wrote: >> > Though, I've not seen anything mentioned in regards to the newer 3650/3850. > These have double amount of shared memory compare to what 2960S/3560X > have Good to

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-05 Thread James
.@viawest.com>, "Nick Cutting" <ncutt...@edgetg.co.uk>, "Tom Hill" <t...@ninjabadger.net> Cc: "cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net" <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960 We do have a few of those out the in field and they are

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-05 Thread John Gaffney
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Nick Cutting Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 11:00 AM To: Tom Hill <t...@ninjabadger.net> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960 I use this list for switch buffers - seems pretty accurate to me:

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-05 Thread Mack McBride
: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960 This looks like a great guide. Looks like I'll be working to replace the switch with something with more power. Any body have a recommendation for a switch with some bigger buffers and 2x 10G uplinks? Need at least 12 Gig ports

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-05 Thread John Gaffney
: Mack McBride [mailto:mack.mcbr...@viawest.com] Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 1:37 PM To: John Gaffney <jgaff...@nan.com>; Nick Cutting <ncutt...@edgetg.co.uk>; Tom Hill <t...@ninjabadger.net> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960 4948Es are

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-05 Thread Daniel Brisson
least 12 Gig ports. > >Thanks, > >John > > >-Original Message- >From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Nick >Cutting >Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 11:00 AM >To: Tom Hill <t...@ninjabadger.net> >Cc: cisco-nsp@puck

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-05 Thread John Gaffney
To: John Gaffney <jgaff...@nan.com> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960 Hey John, > Switch is a straight layer 2, no layer 3 functionality short of mls qos and > some dscp mutation. Anybody seen this kind of thing before? Any commands that > ma

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-05 Thread Jeremy Bresley
; Nick Cutting <ncutt...@edgetg.co.uk>; Tom Hill <t...@ninjabadger.net> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960 4948Es are pretty good if you need 10/100/1000. They are also relatively cheap and can be bought used at a good discount. If you don't need 10/100 t

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-05 Thread Tom Hill
On 05/02/16 13:48, John Gaffney wrote: > Not sure if I am looking at some microbursts, but it would seem to me > the weak buffers in the thing cannot handle bursty traffic? We have > dealt with microbursts before, but the switch is hardly doing 50% of > the interface. It's been discussed a number

Re: [c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-05 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey John, > Switch is a straight layer 2, no layer 3 functionality short of mls qos and > some dscp mutation. Anybody seen this kind of thing before? Any commands that > may help point me towards why these drops are happening? Anybody ever fatten > the q's on these things? Turning on 'mls

[c-nsp] Output drops on 2960

2016-02-05 Thread John Gaffney
Hey guys, got a old 2960s that is registering some output drops on the show interface counters. Odd thing is the actual traffic load on the interfaces that are dropping is between 10-50% on 30 second interval. Not sure if I am looking at some microbursts, but it would seem to me the weak