Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-14 Thread Ɓukasz Bromirski
Hank Nussbacher wrote: And to repeat - to the best of my knowledge the 3825 can't take 1GB of RAM and therefore is not an optimal solution for small multihoming. -Hank Yes it can, table 2 here: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5855/product_data_sheet0900aecd8016a8e8.html or

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-14 Thread Rodney Dunn
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 07:17:14PM +0800, Mark Tinka wrote: > On Friday 14 November 2008 17:14:00 Magnus Eriksson wrote: > > > Also, I'm a bit hesitant regarding IOS XE, which today > > only seems to be used for ASRs. Is IOS XE something that > > is gonna be built upon by Cisco moving ahead? I don

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-14 Thread Pete Templin
Magnus Eriksson wrote: Also, I'm a bit hesitant regarding IOS XE, which today only seems to be used for ASRs. Is IOS XE something that is gonna be built upon by Cisco moving ahead? I don't wanna be stuck with a "dead" OS. Clarification: from what I can see, IOS XE is only used on the ASR 1000

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-14 Thread raymondh (NSP)
You'll need the ESP either the 5/10G too. *thinks* IOS consistency it's something which most of us are keeping our fingers crossed even though there're consistent releases for the SR, XE and XR codes. :) I believe there're lots of folks wanting to knock ITD's door down and the various BUs.

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-14 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Garry wrote: Hank Nussbacher wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Garry wrote: The 3825 can take 1GB? The Cisco ISR link doesn't show that. Just checked again - I thought I had put 1GB in our FW-Router, but it's "only" 768 at the moment (added a 512 to the stock 256) ... Anyway,

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday 14 November 2008 17:14:00 Magnus Eriksson wrote: > Also, I'm a bit hesitant regarding IOS XE, which today > only seems to be used for ASRs. Is IOS XE something that > is gonna be built upon by Cisco moving ahead? I don't > wanna be stuck with a "dead" OS. AFAIK, IOS XE was based on the

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-14 Thread Garry
Hank Nussbacher wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Garry wrote: > > The 3825 can take 1GB? The Cisco ISR link doesn't show that. Just checked again - I thought I had put 1GB in our FW-Router, but it's "only" 768 at the moment (added a 512 to the stock 256) ... Anyway, IIRC, the 3825 has two slots, phys

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-14 Thread Magnus Eriksson
First of all, thank you all for your insights. If we were to go with the ASR track I guess I'd need both the 1002 chassis item (18k USD list price) and the 5k USD IP BASE license aswell. Am I understanding that correctly? Also, I'm a bit hesitant regarding IOS XE, which today only seems to be use

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-13 Thread Hank Nussbacher
And to repeat - to the best of my knowledge the 3825 can't take 1GB of RAM and therefore is not an optimal solution for small multihoming. -Hank On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Mark Tinka wrote: On Friday 14 November 2008 13:09:58 Eric Cables wrote: If you look at the interactive model ( http://www.ci

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-13 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday 14 November 2008 13:09:58 Eric Cables wrote: > If you look at the interactive model ( > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5855 >/ps5857/prod_presentation0900aecd80543db9.html) you can > see GE0/0 and GE0/1 interfaces. > > In addition, the data sheet for both the 3825 a

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-13 Thread Eric Cables
If you look at the interactive model ( http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5855/ps5857/prod_presentation0900aecd80543db9.html) you can see GE0/0 and GE0/1 interfaces. In addition, the data sheet for both the 3825 and 3845 indicates 2 10/100/1000 interfaces: http://www.cisco.com/en

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-13 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Garry wrote: The 3825 can take 1GB? The Cisco ISR link doesn't show that. -Hank Hank Nussbacher wrote: But if you really need 100Mb/sec then a 3845 which can handle 256Mb/sec of thruput would be the next one that can handle 1GB. Actually, 3825 would be the next one ...

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-13 Thread a. rahman isnaini r.sutan
IMHO, since we are now running both of Juniper & Cisco, for handling huge of traffic (e.g Flooding) M5 still much better compared to 7206 VXR a. r. isnaini rangkayo sutan Rodney Dunn wrote: I haven't looked at the price list. How does an ASR1002 compare to a G2 combo? From a growth perspe

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-13 Thread bill fumerola
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:52:29AM +0100, Magnus Eriksson wrote: > The setup currently uses 2 Juniper M5 but those are in dire need of refresh. i realize this is a cisco list, but the reason i make this suggestion is that it'd be easier to copy your configuration to what's already junos than port

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-13 Thread Garry
Hank Nussbacher wrote: > > But if you really need 100Mb/sec then a 3845 which can handle > 256Mb/sec of thruput would be the next one that can handle 1GB. Actually, 3825 would be the next one ... rated at ~170Mb/sec ... 3825 are nice, too with their dual GigE onboard ... we use a couple of them for

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-13 Thread Hank Nussbacher
I'm looking for some pointers on what are the smallest recommeded Cisco boxes to use for a small multihoming solution. 2 full BGP views (approx 260k routes each) 100 Mbps bandwidth requirement. The setup currently uses 2 Juniper M5 but those are in dire need of refresh. What is the appropiat

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-13 Thread raymondh (NSP)
If I didn't remember wrongly based on the list price, it's still cheaper to get the G2 combo either on the 7201 or 7206 w/ the bundle and the difference in cost is quite significant for some. Unless Magnus sees that there's a need for the central forwarding engine/esp or he sees that there'

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-13 Thread Elmar K. Bins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rodney Dunn) wrote: > I haven't looked at the price list. > > How does an ASR1002 compare to a G2 combo? In real-life prices in Germany the ASR1002/AdvEntSvc is some EUR 3K-5K more expensive than a 7201/AdvIPSvc. No idea about a "real" combo. Elmar. __

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-13 Thread Rodney Dunn
I haven't looked at the price list. How does an ASR1002 compare to a G2 combo? >From a growth perspective the ASR1002 would be what I would consider giving a potential migration to GigE. Rodney On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 08:52:47PM +0800, raymondh (NSP) wrote: > You may want to consider getting ei

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-13 Thread raymondh (NSP)
You may want to consider getting either part # CISCO7201 (PSU included) or 7206VXR/NPE-G2 (you need to pay for the PSU, it's quite cheap). Both the part # for the box, shouldn't be much of a difference or same. --raymondh On Nov 13, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Magnus Eriksson wrote: I'm looking for

[c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a small multihoming solution?

2008-11-13 Thread Magnus Eriksson
I'm looking for some pointers on what are the smallest recommeded Cisco boxes to use for a small multihoming solution. 2 full BGP views (approx 260k routes each) 100 Mbps bandwidth requirement. The setup currently uses 2 Juniper M5 but those are in dire need of refresh. What is the appropiate C