Hi Ryan,

If one TP end point is configured in CUCM it does change the license geometry.
The TP room license covers both the TP device and phone that is registered to 
CUCM, only if the owner user id is same for both.
If owner user id differ, then two separate license are required one for TP 
device which would TP room license and for phone it would be UCL enhanced.

Refer the below link for more detail.
Features and Services Guide for Cisco Unified Communications Manager, Release 
10.0(1) - Licensing [Cisco Unified Communications Manager Version 10.0]

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TelePresence Room License
Multi-purpose and immersive TelePresence devices are licensed under a separate 
device license type that is called the TelePresence Room license. The 
TelePresence Room license covers both the TelePresence device and phone that is 
registered to Cisco Unified Communications Manager, only if the same userid is 
entered as the OwnerUserID field for the TelePresence device and the phone. If 
the same userid is not entered as OwnerUserID for both the TelePresense device 
and the phone, then the devices are not associated and two licenses are 
required: one TelePresence Room license for the device and one Enhanced UCL for 
the phone. The TelePresence touch device does not register to the Cisco Unified 
Communications Manager, and therefore does not require a separate license or 
the OwnerUserID association.

Regards,Raaj.

Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:14:33 -0500
From: Erick <erick...@gmail.com>
To: Ryan Huff <ryanh...@outlook.com>
Cc: "cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Strange 10.x licensing issue
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I haven't seen messaging licenses change for a device in cucm yet ... Now will 
need to look closer.

But I have seen CER licenses decrease when a owner is set  same on multiple 
devices in cucm . Still need to dig into that to get understanding of why...

Up until i saw that, I thought each product type license was not tied to other 
types. Have not found much in docs yet on this.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Ryan Huff <ryanh...@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> Had a healthy, licensed 5 node cluster. Some Telepresence units were added 
> and that put the PLM out of compliance, clearly. So the TP licenses were 
> added (using the built in auto-pak fill tool)and that brought the TP license 
> shortage back into compliance BUT put basic messaging, essential and enhanced 
> licensing out of compliance.
> 
> My question is, once TP units are configured in CUCM, does that change the 
> geometry of existing licensed users?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ryan
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